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Science, the Universe, and Ex Nihilo

Altfish

Veteran Member
How does science answer what is outside the universe? Time, space and all that. You claimed science could do it, but you didn't explain how?
Ah, I remember and I made no such claim.
It was to do with what came before the Big Bang and I said science was looking into it - or words to that effect.
Well they are, don't ask me how, I don't know as I am not an astro-physician, that's why I jokingly said Big Binoculars
 

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
Okay, you win. And you used emotions. So you also win on that one. ;)
Emotions? I have no emotions when I debate such things. What I might deploy as a tactical device, is exploiting the emotions of my opponent. Did I, with you?

Ciao

- viole
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
Ah, I remember and I made no such claim.
It was to do with what came before the Big Bang and I said science was looking into it - or words to that effect.
Well they are, don't ask me how, I don't know as I am not an astro-physician, that's why I jokingly said Big Binoculars

Well, they are and they aren't. Because some scientist claim that they can and others claim they can't and that it is not science, but philosophy. So that is the point. Science is not looking to it. Because it is not science to all scientists.
 

Altfish

Veteran Member

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
I would say "you were more than welcome", if that was a reply to a question. So, what question did I answer?

Ciao

- viole

That you don't use emotions yourself, you only use them to get a reaction out of other people. Why you don't that, I can't understand unless it gives you some useful emotion. So that answer is that you are not normal like me, but we are both neurodiverse. So I will treat you differently than the neurotypical.
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
Yes and some scientists say we can't know what happened before the Big Bang. Try searching for quotes from actual scientists from both sides. They are there.
Yes, they may say that. BUT YOU SAID, scientists were NOT looking into it. You've just contradicted yourself.
Make your mind up
 

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
That you don't use emotions yourself, you only use them to get a reaction out of other people. Why you don't that, I can't understand unless it gives you some useful emotion. So that answer is that you are not normal like me, but we are both neurodiverse. So I will treat you differently than the neurotypical.
Which would be wise, since I have been diagnosed with Asperger when I was 12.
And I suspect that is not neurotypical.

Yet.

Ciao

- viole
 
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viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
Well, we are a strange lot. Hope you cope and have found your way.
I wonder how it is logically possible to have not found one's way. Since everybody has a way, it is a truism that they found it.

So, I am not sure what you mean.

Ciao

- viole
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
I wonder how it is logically possible to have not found one's way. Since everybody has a way, it is a truism that they found it.

So, I am not sure what you mean.

Ciao

- viole

Well, I couldn't find my way at first, so I tried to do what others told mine. Not all people live their way, they live based on what others tell them to do.
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
Eyes are not the only way to observe

No, but all observations only take place in the universe. So if you assume you can observe something not in the universe, you have to explain how to do it and not just claim it. I.e. give evidence in some sense of how to do it.
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
No, but all observations only take place in the universe. So if you assume you can observe something not in the universe, you have to explain how to do it and not just claim it. I.e. give evidence in some sense of how to do it.
I only mentioned 'what happened before the Big Bang' you've invented this stuff about me saying something not in the universe.
 
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