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Science, the Universe, and Ex Nihilo

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
Just because we so far have gone from many limits to fewer limits it doesn't follow that we will no limits. You really have to learn to check your own thinking.
That is exactly what I am saying. Where are the limits? We started with kindling fire by knowing one stone against another. Are you claiming any prophethood?
 

halbhh

The wonder and awe of "all things".
does science believe that there was nothing before the creation of the universe? or that the universe was created from nothing?
It's a wonderful time in physics, because that's the ultimate big open question, and a lot of competing speculative theories have been proposed in the last 20 years on this, and related aspects, since physics all ties together (we think). For instance, the "multiverse" theories are just some of the competing theories.

Here's a great primer article I think is accessible without a physics degree, but if you have one, it's still worth reading, the writer is that good.

Is Nature Unnatural? | Quanta Magazine
(if you like this one, there are more after it on a similar level of high quality)
 
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Ponder This

Well-Known Member
does science believe that there was nothing before the creation of the universe? or that the universe was created from nothing?

Scientists believe many things. The most common belief is that before the so-called big bang, there was a tiny, dense ball of matter. More than that enters the realm of pseudo-science.
 

Viker

Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
does science believe that there was nothing before the creation of the universe? or that the universe was created from nothing?
No. Science is actually pointing that the universe came from something. Exactly what is what they want to know and not jump to any conclusions doing so.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
As words about man's intentions science he said nothing was his ideal.... as his intention was to God mass earths end gaining nothing.

As science by practice was involved with machine building reaction thesis.

Why a natural human not yet a scientist invented science to practice.

So of course you believed your intention by the theory. As you didn't own why a universe existed as common human sense spoken truth.

Living consciously biology life in earths light.

Now if science says I believe space time..light gas burning by human only stories existed before. To own the universe now Then our suns big bang changed its origin.

So he says I'm psychic first acutely aware. Told you I knew O gods as planets about a third were scattered destroyed and now Satan's body as stars. As big bang UFO cosmic sun war.

So on earth scientists see gigantic human images held in the stars gases.

He personally digs up evidence himself knowing in instant fused human invented machine parts and artefacts are found. Known.

Says I own all evidence I caused that scientific UFO war myself. As earths origin mass changed.

Why I told everyone I already knew.

So when he says I expect Satan to return on earth...he really means what he preaches. In science.

Science only as human practices.

If a human says I'm told that humans can destroy all life on earth is because they were pre told the advice.

Star Akashic memories said human scientists. Gained on earth as star recorded glimpses human visions....as earths total mass story isn't held in a star mass reflections.
 

Ehav4Ever

Well-Known Member
does science believe that there was nothing before the creation of the universe? or that the universe was created from nothing?

A better way to state your question may be the following:
  1. What do various scientists beleive was the nature of reality before the big bang?
  2. What do current discoveries made by scientists show about the possibilities of the nature of the universe before the big bang?
  3. What discipline(s) of science deal(s) with what was the state of the universe before the big bang?
  4. How is the big bang defined by scientists from various disciplines of science?
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
A better way to state your question may be the following:
  1. What do various scientists beleive was the nature of reality before the big bang?
  2. What do current discoveries made by scientists show about the possibilities of the nature of the universe before the big bang?
  3. What discipline(s) of science deal(s) with what was the state of the universe before the big bang?
  4. How is the big bang defined by scientists from various disciplines of science?
If you ask a human to think by a question posed. I don't need to be a scientist by only chosen human cult group status.

As all thinkers are first the human a human who can think for themselves.

Which was a what a natural human theist first did before the practice which proved him wrong not right.

As his thoughts calculus words hasn't owned why created creation existed.

1. Before the big bang which science says is held as evidence is our sun. It expanded.

Stating a higher massed universe existed before. Question 3.

4. Based on universes around other sun stars owning more planets. And our universe scattered planets about one third destroyed.

As all humans use words that explain a conscious human reality by the presence life's light. Which came about inherited by a sun yet natural history out of earths mass first.

So advised twice but a variable advice.

As a consciousness natural study I proved to myself you can only ascertain advised by the conditions naturally advised.
 

Ehav4Ever

Well-Known Member
If you ask a human to think by a question posed. I don't need to be a scientist by only chosen human cult group status.

As all thinkers are first the human a human who can think for themselves.

Which was a what a natural human theist first did before the practice which proved him wrong not right.

As his thoughts calculus words hasn't owned why created creation existed.

1. Before the big bang which science says is held as evidence is our sun. It expanded.

Stating a higher massed universe existed before. Question 3.

4. Based on universes around other sun stars owning more planets. And our universe scattered planets about one third destroyed.

As all humans use words that explain a conscious human reality by the presence life's light. Which came about inherited by a sun yet natural history out of earths mass first.

So advised twice but a variable advice.

As a consciousness natural study I proved to myself you can only ascertain advised by the conditions naturally advised.

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firedragon

Veteran Member
Science does not know.

But science is looking into it; rather than saying "God did it"

Science cannot look into the metaphysical. And science does not do anything. Humans use scientific investigation instead. And science can produce a hypothesis.

Just because someone opposes theology one should not lose all sense.
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
Science cannot look into the metaphysical. And science does not do anything. Humans use scientific investigation instead. And science can produce a hypothesis.
Neither can religion. Religion cannot even produce a hypothesis
Just because someone opposes theology one should not lose all sense.
Lose all sense??
I put it down somewhere, I need to check if its under the sofa.
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
Science does not know.

But science is looking into it; rather than saying "God did it"

Well, you have to solve the following problem. To observe and test something you are in the universe. How would you observe and test something, if it is not in the universe?
 

firedragon

Veteran Member
And I never claimed Science could either. So that's a strawman to start with. and a Tu Quoque by you in the first place

Lol. Even if you never made any claims, its still not a Tu Quoque. It could be a strawman, but not a Tu Quoque. You should understand these things prior to using them.

You should try and understand science a little better too prior to using it.

Have a good day.
 
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