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Scientific monism

SpiritQuest

The Immortal Man
The speed of light is zero, pure and perfect stillness. What we are observing is the rate of manifestation of space-time.

The universe(The All in All) is continually manifesting creation. There is motion and stillness, AKA movement and repose.

The Kingdom of God is the pure and perfect stillness within every-being and every thing.

Brightness beyond bright is the perfectly still Light.


 
The speed of light is not zero but everything else you said I agree with Spirit Quest. There is the non-dual clear light which is not the usual light that we find looking in the universe but rather the substrate to multiple universes and aloof from all, yet, it is there beginning. Everything is energy. For humans purposes all ventures outward to the finite are actually ventures inward to the infinite.
 
As far as we understand everything is composed of energy.

Therefore isn't monism scientifically proven?
Energy can go and come. But the start of energy would have to have a beginning. If everything were energy then we would be able to change and manipulate time space and matter to our liking. Energy can always be manipulated and controlled.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
Energy can go and come. But the start of energy would have to have a beginning. If everything were energy then we would be able to change and manipulate time space and matter to our liking. Energy can always be manipulated and controlled.
Energy does not come and go it changes form. No energy does not necessarily have a beginning. In fact, there is no evidence that could possibly conclude that energy has a beginning or end.

What hypothesis can you present that energy must have a beginning?
 

ChieftheCef

Well-Known Member
Energy does not come and go it changes form. No energy does not necessarily have a beginning. In fact, there is no evidence that could possibly conclude that energy has a beginning or end.

What hypothesis can you present that energy must have a beginning?
The Big Bang hypothesis...
 

wellwisher

Well-Known Member
As far as we understand everything is composed of energy.

Therefore isn't monism scientifically proven?
Mono means one, so mono-science would imply a type of unified theory of science that could explain everything. Energy is sort of like such a variable, but energy alone lacks the details. Polytheism was connected to many gods, therefore poly-science, would be composed of many specialty sciences, that do not fully interface each other, but like the gods of polytheism, were often unrelated and/or in conflict with each other. In science, there are often more than one theory for the same specialty things; cosmology and psychology, which is also poly poly-science.

The main symptom of poly-science is specialization which can lose track of the ideal mono-science forest, because of the specialty trees. We would need a more generalist science education and approach to science, so condensation of all the sub-theories of science, have a chance to merge into a unified science theory.

For example in climate science, everyone is fixated on a few gas molecules like CO2 and methane in the atmosphere. These are important but this is overly simplified, so you still need a dice approach for support; probability function. A mono-science approach would also consider the inner earth; core rotates faster than the surface, as well as the surface forest fires and bio-decomposition, the atmosphere and even the surface water and moving geology, among other things.

Water exists in many phases, even at the conditions inside the earth to the core, as well as on the surface and atmosphere. There is lots of water in the mantle. Water is also the majority component of life, which has an impact on the surface. Water would be a good integrating; simplifying variable, since it touches all of the rest.

Biology is fixated on organic differentiation which gets very specialized. Water in life, on the other hand, touches everything in life and therefore could be used as an integrating variable. No organics of life works properly without water assistance. Water has a unique feature of dis playing both polar and covalent hydrogen bonding; binary switch like computer memory. If we take one hundred water molecules; 2n, these switches in combination can can express any organic situation; mono-biology. Advance and speedy simulation is possible.

There is resistance to mono-science, since many small fish in many small ponds can have more collective prestige, than the same number of small fish in one big pond. Human nature would also need to be taken into account, since humans decide which approach to take for reasons beyond just science; good jobs and promotions. Even science based business patents and proprietary information is more about differentiation into free market polytheism niches, instead of integration into unified approaches. It is about the company that stands out and sells. Integration may be counter productive to the competitive model.
 

ChieftheCef

Well-Known Member
Okay, so I have been wrong in the past, continuing journey and what not. It's quantum foam, the quantum field, nothing, the Void, the well of the illusory consciousness.

 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
As far as we understand everything is composed of energy.
Therefore isn't monism scientifically proven?
Close to how Wikipedia defines Substance Monism, but do not make energy into a God. Because then it becomes 'monotheism'.

"Substance monism asserts that a variety of existing things can be explained in terms of a single reality or substance. Substance monism posits that only one kind of substance exists, although many things may be made up of this substance, e.g., matter or mind."
 

wellwisher

Well-Known Member
As far as we understand everything is composed of energy.

Therefore isn't monism scientifically proven?
Science is more like rational polytheism due to its differential and specialty nature. In Greek mythology, for example, there was a specialty god for farming, for water, for love and for war,. etc. Science compartmentalizes reality the same way making it hard for the biologist to know what the physicists are doing. The worship and jargon of each subject are different. We would need a unified theory of everything to bring all under one monism roof.

Energy is common to most, but by itself energy does not address all the material stuff in a way that allows science can differentiate it. Einstein's E=MC2 was about the equivalency of mass and energy for nuclear conversion to energy calculations, but energy along does not explain cells in our body or mountains, since these are in the matter phase, more than in the energy phase.

Religion was able to make this transition by attributing all creation to one God, instead of many gods. Angels tend to do what all the gods of old did, reporting to one God, but God is the boss and does all the creative work.

Although my theory of space-time and separated space and separated time, may be a good starting places, space-time and our material universe can be derived from separated space and separated time, with separated space and time including matter, life, consciousness and energy. Energy is where separated space and time merge based on the relationship of space/time; wavelength-frequency.
 
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