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Scientists create matter from nothing in groundbreaking experiment

We Never Know

No Slack
An empty vacuum has nothing in it. So maybe a vacuum chamber.

"A vacuum is a space absolutely devoid of matter, at least according to the Merriam-Webster dictionary. But if you talk to a physicist you may get a different answer. According to quantum physics, even vacuums are not completely empty. Constant fluctuations in energy can spontaneously create mass not just out of thin air, but out of absolutely nothing at all."

A Study About Nothing
 

dybmh

ויהי מבדיל בין מים למים
I thought that matter ( energy ) couldn't be created or destroyed; it only changes form. I guess that's not true?
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
Humans didn't invent creation.

You theoried maths to attack it.

Science held a constant until it equalled the mass amount a burning asteroid communicated visions to a man's mind. The advice equalled causes.

Above us is the suns owned firmament.

Heavens saved us.

So you think about earth how nuclear sun mass had caused sin holes. As it's mass originally was consuming...not frozen. Frozen cooled first ..burst then refrozen.

Sciences theories about laws historic that science itself doesn't own.

So metals in heat bored its sun holes tunnels into earth. Earth hadn't blown apart historic like other gods planets had.

The freeze space vacuum voiding opening into more space. Man theist says all planets were involved. Attacked lost mass. Space opened everywhere so cooling freeze stopped it. Suns attack.

Earth was cold mass. Crystalline faced. Had a clear non burning immaculate heavens. Reason as earths substance owned a colder crystalline mass first. Is part of advised. No human owns that law now.

When the sun attacked earths crystalline mass it melted flowed like rivers into the sin holes.

So not only did space freeze metals in earths mass as a stopped sun attack. The volcanic mass stopped the collapse of tunnels that formed.

How it ended as the attack. No law any human owns.

So you'd say earths gases came from crystalline mass melt origins.

Why it was so cold in natural history as compared to suns heat. How the immaculate gas survived.

The only reason earth survived.

So science says 11111111111111 is everything present. Infinity non stop 000000000000000 the law of freeze.

1 is frozen. Don't change it he says as a man human to a man human. Can't argue against yourself... yes you do.

As when you use 2 one no longer is frozen by status human thinking to force change 1. What is held fused frozen.

So a human says 1 to 9 next minute 10 exists. As if he created the presence of 1. When Law has. As he knew how to remove mass.

So today asks a question how much mass quotients can I remove before Rock doesn't exist.

He predicted it by bible. It's always in. Future. As you keep removing earths mass yourself as science until what you calculated predicted actually occurs.

So he got one reaction occur as a Future ground loss he predicted himself as science in new machine. Says it's science terms.

What's scientific about destructive removal of earths mass?

Therefore UFO happening was because vacuum void 2012 space opening to cool didn't occur. To stop ground mass converting unnaturally.

Huge natural disasters active as earths own cooling model. Proved earth hasn't cooled it's mass as it needs it cooled.

Why legal said in science theory never give God a science name ever again. Fully aware you caused evil only.

He knew how to remove created creation by mathematics.

So in our past science began removing earth mass like the sun had. Makes it disappear as he's doing magic.

And so it did. Not of his control sink holes then opened. As he had removed the freeze that had stopped sin holes into their further collapse.

Now if sink holes old ones all went into collapse he'd be preverably going to the toilet in his pants.

But as water cooled the stone rock and ice cooled above heated gases it stopped.

As ice has emerged as bodies of snap freeze in desert....when a sink hole does open its proof snap freeze isn't there as earths saviour law to stop it.

So science is destroying life's saviour ice body.

Is his his phenomena answer only.

What is it rationally is of no consequence as it shouldn't is sciences answer.

Vacuum void moment would have overcome sciences caused activated natural disaster mechanism. Instead they've kept us in an artificially caused atmospheric ground occurrence.

As it's his earth cools its owned balances.

Why we knew increase of natural disasters our warning sign leading into an unnatural vacuum voiding outcome.

Like the day the sky went dark. As science says it's inventing the presence of created creation itself. No light.

No mass just cold gases first. No light.
 
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rational experiences

Veteran Member
Review of a theist.

Says a quark comes out goes back. It's not rock. As rock is law.

So it goes back as rock tried to leave. Yet it's not rock. Pressures cold etc all laws forces it back.

Theists don't think about earths own natural laws reactive reacting is law first and first natural.

He can't use natural disaster for his machines model. So ignored earths owned natural laws.

The theist says I want.

If earth loses its firmament below in thesis. Above firmament as sun dust mass above would cave in onto our life replace ground mass losses. As it's by mass as equation science not one single.

So you ask him why did you one single compare a human life existing to mass?

It's safe he says.

But sciences equation isn't.

That's right he said I'm theorising...my thesis is correct so don't you dare argue I'm correct by thesis.

But life would be Sacrificed.....

Yes I know I told you I know what I'm talking about.

Is his mind status. The egotist.

How are you going to survive?

Oh I'm the alien inside my machine in out of space. The theist in human life. Who a theist is. Possessed by his human only theorising.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
Man thinking I'm a God as a man I created invented man's image above in the clouds. Aware I caused it.

I acted like God had. I'm an inventor of new cloud mass.

Not in machine. In natural heavens law above.

His story.

Scientist destroyed all life on earth as origin planet earth. Back to carbon coal nature. Ashes. Knew he had in giant pyramid science in America vicinity. Underground mass sits on empty mass caverns beneath.

If American plates fall in the end of life on earth will be effectual. No plates or volcanic mass to stop a huge collapse. Known.

Clouds once in law were just smoking burning rolling cooling gases. Like smoke.

Changed into a human Satan angel images emerged when carbonised water oxygenated microbes still lived in ground waters evaporation up above.

Man said confessed I made grounds life biology support leave into up above. It will remain forever until it becomes infinity immaculate no light.

His thesis why he knew immaculate was earths origin heavens. How he gave life's oxygenated water owned on ground above

Why frogs fishes fall out of the sky sucked up.

Humans ended life above. Never began a humans life above is just lying.

Image of humans in clouds stated the exact reason.

Man after ice age applies temple technology...using transmitters to a crystal gold tipped receiver on pyramid pressurised casement.

Pyramid used water pump opened shut windows cooling casement. And flooding grounds mass below.

Didn't work. Blew up.

Reason cannot make a pressurised crystal remain cooled as it used heated transmitters.

Learnt.

So old human man's science angel. Fell out of the clouds. Destroyed. Fell burning seen.

True story.

Then clouds burning began a new smoking rolling cooling increased mass greater than old mass owning old angel image.

New oscillating mass vibration changed angel image into a man image. Not an angel. Mass of cloud greater than image.

As cloud mass was invented Increased by science man. Congratulates himself today on that achievement.

Cloud mass itself is just burning rolling cooling gases like smoke in natural mass history. No images was first. You lied. Theists are a human liar.

As no human when you are human by intent is to destroy human.

Seeing babies human come from human not ape sex. Are microbial sperm ovary. Compared to microbe no human baby.

A biologist said an ape is not a human as human sciences answer living biology.

Science dangerous tells science of old it's dangerous but ignored its own advice today...you are dangerous.

As never did the Theist include themselves in the theory.

Spiritual consciousness always included self in any assessment to be quoted am being spiritual the human.
 

LegionOnomaMoi

Veteran Member
Premium Member
The vacuum is full of spacetime, fields, virtual particles and other spicy wotsits. Lots of somethings but no nothings.
Just to be clear, according to the only type of theories that allow for virtual particles (QFTs), virtual particles are fields (that is, they are localized excitations of fields defined at every point in typically flat spacetime). Indeed, there is a related and important implication that follows from the fact that "particles" in particle physics are made to satisfy constraints imposed by QM and (special relativity) as well as certain more general considerations (e.g., microcausality, locality, the ability to consider systems as approximately isolated s.t. it can be safely asserted the system's processes and environment are sufficiently insensitive to any distant environment, system, etc., so that the effects of these on local processes are negligible). QM does not obey fundamental relativistic “laws” (non-relativistic quantum mechanics obeys Galilean symmetry “groups” and transformations that are only approximately correct when relativistic effects can be neglected). To construct a relativistic quantum theory that obeys the more fundamental “spacetime” symmetries (invariance under Poincaré group, loosely and incorrectly speaking), one has to deal with the fact that time is a parameter in QM while position in space is an observable. This is done by demoting the position operator and promoting observables themselves to the status of “particles” that are identified with the points they act on in spacetime and the fields that in a certain sense therefore cannot be considered apart from spacetime.

Moreover, you can’t have a vacuum full of spacetime or anything “full of spacetime.” Imagine a box. Inside that box there is a certain “region” of space at any particular time. It does not follow that the box contains “spacetime”. Objects in space carve out paths in spacetime, as even when they are (or can be considered to be) motionless in space they are (as is everything) moving in spacetime.


Quarks pop in and out of existence and are a type of particle that constitute matter.
Quarks are rather interesting, but not necessarily for the reason you give above (that's true of all "particles" in the standard model, not just quarks). Quarks are interesting because we have no real way in which to make sense out of them in QFT in the way one might hope in particle physics. They fail even the shaky, rather dubious mathematics of QFTs, e.g., in that the mathematical requirements we have for the "spaces" in which particles are defined don't work for quarks, they are tortuously difficult to work with even using an effective field theory approach thanks to the delicate balances needed to extracted physical values that can be compared to experiments, and they can't be observed. Ever.

I've seen this described in several ways in popular physics sources as well as textbooks and some other material: one may read or hear something like "quarks can't be observed in isolation" or "isolated quarks are never observed" or "quarks always come in groups, never singularly", but all this is at best a bad way to communicate that we can't observe them at all. Instead, such descriptions suggest that we can somehow "see" or detect quarks in HEP experiments like we do other "particles", but that when we do they are clustered together somehow, like common depictions of protons and neutrons as nice little balls "glued" together to make up the nucleus of an atom.

But to observe a physical system such as an electron or quark “in isolation” means “to observe it”, in the same way that even though all those proton and neutron balls can be individualized despite being seen all glued together into the nucleus in school models or pictures.

Quarks don’t have even the “quantum particle”-like realizability as the inability ot observe them in isolation actually means they are not even theoretically discernible, identifiable entities.

So in a more accurate but still misleading sort of way, you could say that things like electrons or pions or positrons “pop in and out of existence” more than do quarks.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
As a human not lying first by their thesis terms about using what I hadn't created.

Life is by human sex. Two adults sex a baby.... baby from microbial human microbe sperm ovary.

Father died
Mother died.

We're karma. Babies reborn to live their life. Again.

It's too late humans die is our answer.

Science he says doesn't die its eternal by mass. As it's a story not an idea.

Science says mass owns multi bodies electrons photons etc. Don't die. They get destroyed. As mass owns why they exist on after destruction of the same type...just out of mass.

So babies died too.

Consciousness told. Humans adults did not return from the body of dusts.... a skeleton becomes dusts then blows away on wind...no human. Our first only patent human. We're all babies only...from microbial life.

The incorruptible spirit that recorded life remains. Psychic proven.. adults and babies.

So no baby life didn't come from dusts or a dead human. But we relive the two human parents experiences. Ourselves.

First life origin parent human. Colder ground mass. Less ice but same amount water oxygen now.

I saw that memory it's real. I was advised.

Your theist arguments are based on what type of word sentence you use. What type of defined comparing you infer by choice only...human choice.

No one else is choosing the story but a human.

In life a field is first a Crop as grasses. Peas...grains...flowers etc. All mass bio life different in a field in human memory.

We naturally roamed fields as humans before science. We ran through fields as humans. Humans in the field natural first.

Our real memories of the Field.

Today you say a phi pattern crop circle is laying on top of field.

Whoop de doo. You see it hence it's there physical in the nature only as flattened crops.

Then he'll argue.

No when crops the cold bio growth hadn't existed rock has it etched in it.

I wouldn't call it any field. I'd say destroyed ground mass. No life no comparison.
 
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