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Scientists finally prove there IS life after death

ArtieE

Well-Known Member
Tell me first how the singularity started and who started it then I'll tell you how God existed.
If your god "started" the singularity please tell us how and why a god capable of starting a singularity existed in the first place. Evolution? Chance?
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Correct. Evolution and natural selection are natural processes. The DNA of organisms will always undergo random changes and some changes will be beneficial and some detrimental to survival in different natural habitats. And in the end we get all the species we have on Earth.

Why the DNA is flexible, was it by accident that the DNA made modifiable?
 

McBell

Unbound
How the origin and the evolution of the DNA is an answer to my question of how the DNA was made to be flexible and modifiable?
So you either did not look at the link or you did not understand the information in the link.
Which is it?
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Why and how would your god exist? Did your god evolve? Would your god exist by chance? What is the reason your god would exist instead of not exist?

It's either there was nothing, and nothing will never produce a thing or there was always an existing thing
that is capable of producing everything.

Which makes more sense to you? if you have to choose one of the 2 options.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
So you either did not look at the link or you did not understand the information in the link.
Which is it?

And how you come with this conclusion? it has nothing to do with my question as if the DNA was designed to be
modifiable or it was so by accident?
 

ArtieE

Well-Known Member
How the origin and the evolution of the DNA is an answer to my question of how the DNA was made to be flexible and modifiable?
Your question is meaningless. DNA wasn't made it evolved. Chemical evolution. DNA was just the latest in a long chain of modifiable molecules.
 

McBell

Unbound
It's either there was nothing, and nothing will never produce a thing or there was always an existing thing
that is capable of producing everything.

Which makes more sense to you? if you have to choose one of the 2 options.
Easy.
The universe always existed.
No need to up the ante another step by inserting a god that always existed.
 

ArtieE

Well-Known Member
It's either there was nothing, and nothing will never produce a thing or there was always an existing thing
that is capable of producing everything.

Which makes more sense to you? if you have to choose one of the 2 options.
Then I choose the simplest and third option: There was always something and currently our universe is simply that something in the form of our universe.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Easy.
The universe always existed.
No need to up the ante another step by inserting a god that always existed.

So you agree that the universe is always existing but not God, but the fact is that the universe won't last forever
and before 15 billions years ago there was no universe, so it isn't always existing.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Your question is meaningless. DNA wasn't made it evolved. Chemical evolution. DNA was just the latest in a long chain of modifiable molecules.

You still can't answer my question, better to be sincere with your own self and to say i don't know the answer, at least
for us to believe that you're sincere and honest on searching for the truth and in proving your points.
 

ArtieE

Well-Known Member
So you agree that the universe is always existing but not God, but the fact is that the universe won't last forever
and before 15 billions years ago there was no universe, so it isn't always existing.
But what now exists as our universe has always existed just not as our universe.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
But what now exists as our universe has always existed just not as our universe.

And what that thing which was always existing before this universe, maybe another universe (multiverses), the important
thing that you should exclude God, it can be just anything and that thing will make sense to you if and only if it exclude God.
 

ArtieE

Well-Known Member
You still can't answer my question
Your question is still meaningless. DNA wasn't made it evolved. All the molecules DNA evolved from were also flexible and modifiable. Inflexible and unmodifiable molecules would just stay as they were.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Your question is still meaningless. DNA wasn't made it evolved. All the molecules DNA evolved from were also flexible and modifiable. Inflexible and unmodifiable molecules would just stay as they were.

The 4 nitrogen bases types for the DNA are Adenine, thymine, guanine and cytosine.

The order of these 4 types is what makes the genetic code, how it was made to be flexible and modifiable.
 

ArtieE

Well-Known Member
And what that thing which was always existing before this universe, maybe another universe (multiverses), the important
thing that you should exclude God, it can be just anything and that thing will make sense to you if and only if it exclude God.
Do you need to include Thor to make sense of meteorology? No of course not. Do you need to include Poseidon to make sense of seismology? No of course not. Do you need to include some god to make sense of cosmology? Of course not. But wait... suddenly you do! Now suddenly you require that cosmologists include the possibility of a god in their equations! But that is unfair to all the other scientific disciplines! :)
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Do you need to include Thor to make sense of meteorology? No of course not. Do you need to include Poseidon to make sense of seismology? No of course not. Do you need to include some god to make sense of cosmology? Of course not. But wait... suddenly you do! Now suddenly you require that cosmologists include the possibility of a god in their equations! But that is unfair to all the other scientific disciplines! :)

We were talking about the origin of the universe and you agreed that something should always be existing and you
chose it to be the universe itself, we weren't talking which religion was wrong or right and we didn't discuss that
God should be inserted in our scientific studies.
 
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