Scientists finally prove there IS life after death

[arthra]

Do you believe in the afterlife or still in doubt?

When I served as a volunteer at a local hospital for four years I had some fascinating conversations that seemed to me to confirm what we call near death experiences, out of body experiences and life after clinical death so I'm convinced of this phenomenau. There's also the research of Elizabeth Kebler Ross who has interviewed thousands...so this nothing new to the scientific community. Learn more at

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near-death_experience

 

[FearGod]

These people didn't realize what was going on. The article even specifies that it's feeling based. Including feeling of body seperation, which has been replicated with oxygen deprivation with no evidence anything supernatural going on. Vivid dreams and hallucinations while in oxygen deprivation (as well as fear and panic) is quite common. None of this is actually evidence of truly 'out of body' experience.

From the source

In a separate study a team of German psychologists and medical doctors also claim to have proven by clinical experimentation, the existence of some form of life after death.

Using a new type of medically supervised near-death experiences, that allow patients to be clinically dead for almost 20 minutes before being brought back to life.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

From the source

In a separate study a team of German psychologists and medical doctors also claim to have proven by clinical experimentation, the existence of some form of life after death.

Using a new type of medically supervised near-death experiences, that allow patients to be clinically dead for almost 20 minutes before being brought back to life.

I can't speak of the success or not of that study without seeing it but I've seen a lot of similar claims which didn't actually show what they headlined. Significant is the use of the word 'claim' not 'shown.'

After checking it, I can see that there's no link actually given to this so called separate study. Another telling, and damning, sign.

 

[FearGod]

I can't speak of the success or not of that study without seeing it but I've seen a lot of similar claims which didn't actually show what they headlined. Significant is the use of the word 'claim' not 'shown.'

After checking it, I can see that there's no link actually given to this so called separate study. Another telling, and damning, sign.

Berlin | A team of psychologists and medical doctors associated with the Technische Universität of Berlin, have announced this morning that they had proven by clinical experimentation, the existence of some form of life after death. This astonishing announcement is based on the conclusions of a study using a new type of medically supervised near-death experiences, that allow patients to be clinically dead for almost 20 minutes before being brought back to life.
http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/german-scientists-prove-there-is-life-after-death/

 

[ADigitalArtist]

When I served as a volunteer at a local hospital for four years I had some fascinating conversations that seemed to me to confirm what we call near death experiences, out of body experiences and life after clinical death so I'm convinced of this phenomenau. There's also the research of Elizabeth Kebler Ross who has interviewed thousands...so this nothing new to the scientific community. Learn more at

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near-death_experience

If you were to believe the interviews and stories of thousands of stoners on a bad trip, time dilation is a real thing, not just a completely physical, commonplace distortion of senses. In fact I'd go as far to say that people in critical conditions especially oxygen deprivation are the least reliable testimony to their surroundings that there is.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

Berlin | A team of psychologists and medical doctors associated with the Technische Universität of Berlin, have announced this morning that they had proven by clinical experimentation, the existence of some form of life after death. This astonishing announcement is based on the conclusions of a study using a new type of medically supervised near-death experiences, that allow patients to be clinically dead for almost 20 minutes before being brought back to life.
http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/german-scientists-prove-there-is-life-after-death/

That's a link to the headline, not the study. Studies have the methodology included. Headlines are just words.

Edit: Also clinically dead, I should remind, isn't actually brain dead. Having your heart stopped (or removed like for transplant situations) but being on a respirator means your brain never is in critical condition, let alone brain death.

 

[FearGod]

That's a link to the headline, not the study. Studies have the methodology included. Headlines are just words.

Edit: Also clinically dead, I should remind, isn't actually brain dead. Having your heart stopped (or removed like for transplant situations) but being on a respirator means your brain never is in critical condition, let alone brain death.

As Dr. Ackermann said

“I know our results could disturb the beliefs of many people” says Mr Ackermann. “But in a way, we have just answered one of the greatest questions in the history of mankind, so I hope these people will be able to forgive us. Yes, there is life after death and it looks like this applies to everyone.”

This is a scientific study, life after death is a reality, truth has been revealed regardless of our beliefs.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

As Dr. Ackermann said

“I know our results could disturb the beliefs of many people” says Mr Ackermann. “But in a way, we have just answered one of the greatest questions in the history of mankind, so I hope these people will be able to forgive us. Yes, there is life after death and it looks like this applies to everyone.”

This is a scientific study, life after death is a reality, truth has been revealed regardless of our beliefs.

Except no study is given. There's no actual publication release. Just a headline. On a satire site, no less. http://realorsatire.com/worldnewsdailyreport-com/

 

[George-ananda]

@FearGod @ADigitalArtist

I looked into this German study thing. I think this German scientist article is another example of bad journalism; worse than the original article. Apparently there is no Dr Berthold Ackermann at that University. The article is a hoax I am guessing.

And second of all, the article didn't make sense. Why would these sensations 'prove' life after death. And what medical professional or patient is going to allow this to occur to people. The risk of death sound enormous.

I think the strongest point in either of these article is Sam Parnia (respected) saying '“Furthermore, the detailed recollections of visual awareness in this case were consistent with verified events.” This has been reported many times already though in the research, people seeing verifiable details (even blind people) that they could not have seen in the normal manner. This is strong evidence but not really anything new except perhaps Parnia staged the experiment to be controlled??

 

[NewGuyOnTheBlock]

Oh, wait! Are you telling me that (according to the article), the brain continues to live (without oxygen) for approx. 3 minutes, thus is still active?

Whow, how (not) new is that tidbit of information!

 

[Flankerl]

> believing anything published in the Daily Mirror

 

[VioletVortex]

I believed in the afterlife before reading that, but the sensation of "overpowering fear" described was probably the result of carbon dioxide not being able to vent from the body. When the person stops breathing, the carbon dioxide can't escape, and it triggers a panic reaction. The fear probably subsides after a few minutes.

 

[VioletVortex]

Oh, wait! Are you telling me that (according to the article), the brain continues to live (without oxygen) for approx. 3 minutes, thus is still active?

Whow, how (not) new is that tidbit of information!

Exactly. I'm assuming you don't believe in an afterlife, but that is true.

I don't think the person enters the afterlife until the brain breaks down to a certain point.

 

[Kuzcotopia]

Slow your roll people, the Irish Mirror is a tabloid.

Here's another fun one:

http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/weird-news/nasa-cover-up-astronomer-claims-8124077

@FearGod, in case you didn't know:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabloid_journalism

 

[Neo Deist]

Every single one of these "deaths" is a clinical death; that is one where the heart has stopped but brain activity continues.

There has NEVER been someone that has been legally dead (far different than clinical), gone through rigor mortis and then came back. When that happens, call me. Until then, there is nothing worth talking about on this subject.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

I don't know if this means much, but I have a friend who has congenital heart defect since she was a infant. She has had many surgeries since. She suffered a stroke and is legally blind.

During one of her heart surgeries, though she was knocked out, she told doctors what she saw during our "out." She said there was a pain in her chest and found out that one of the nurses left a swab (you know, the ones we use to take off nail polish with), in her chest. The technical instrument for observing fluid during surgery.

She was right. It was there.

Her brain was alive, but she had I think a triple-bi. If she were proof that there was life after death, the only thing she'd be proving is that our brains can still pick up sensations and connections even when the heart has been stopped. Highly assuming that when the heart stops, it doesn't automatically trigger every other part of the brain all at one time. You know how your computer shuts off? Well, mine, it takes a bit. The CPU shuts off, then the screen, then the lights. Then the air under the lap top, and then it's out. If I'm inpatient, it can seem minutes before everything turns off even though the hard drive has already clonked out.

That, and this headline makes me pause at the authenticity of this article: "While undertaking the research the scientists uncovered what may be the first proven case of a patient’s out of body experience."

Was this a secret discovery? Usually, when we find something this big it isn't a hush hush thing unless, well... but it's in the headlines, so.

@FearGod now if you give us some surveys, scholarly articles, and studies that have other people other than the patients testify to the article's authenticity, then there would be something to discuss.

I agree with @ADigitalArtist

In fact I'd go as far to say that people in critical conditions especially oxygen deprivation are the least reliable testimony to their surroundings that there is. (25)​

Plus, "life after death" is a religious belief. Scientifically, what is the motive of a scientist for wanting to search for life after death (outside of his or her personal beliefs)?

What is the purpose for doctors to want people to live forever?

 

[VioletVortex]

Most reported "out of body experiences" are simply illusions; when the brain is under a lot of stress (impenetrable death), detachment from reality and one's body occurs.

I got stabbed in the leg with the fin of my surfboard a few years ago, I thought I was going to bleed to death. I remember feeling as if I had levitated from my body, it was as if I was looking down from above myself. However, it was not a very vivid experience, at least visually. Emotionally, it was huge, but my perception of reality was very unclear. This was just a result of my possibly impending death. I know I did not actually leave my body. It was all a feeling.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

@FearGod @ADigitalArtist

I looked into this German study thing. I think this German scientist article is another example of bad journalism; worse than the original article. Apparently there is no Dr Berthold Ackermann at that University. The article is a hoax I am guessing.

And second of all, the article didn't make sense. Why would these sensations 'prove' life after death. And what medical professional or patient is going to allow this to occur to people. The risk of death sound enormous.

I think the strongest point in either of these article is Sam Parnia (respected) saying '“Furthermore, the detailed recollections of visual awareness in this case were consistent with verified events.” This has been reported many times already though in the research, people seeing verifiable details (even blind people) that they could not have seen in the normal manner. This is strong evidence but not really anything new except perhaps Parnia staged the experiment to be controlled??

Thanks you for setting the record straight about the article. I had my suspicions when I saw a website stating the one linked was a satire/tabloid style site.

 

[ronandcarol]

Scientists finally prove there IS life after death.....
Did they read the Bible?

ronandcarol

 

[George-ananda]

There has NEVER been someone that has been legally dead (far different than clinical), gone through rigor mortis and then came back. .

I believe after the body is hopelessly dead, some have come back in spirit form but that is another type of phenomena.