Scotland votes to end exports of tear gas and rubber bullets to the U.S.

[Brickjectivity]

Can we export Trump back to Scotland?

Just asken.

Think maybe they'd give us the highlands for him?

 

[sun rise]

bagpipes and haggis

Break it up or we'll put you in the slammer and feed you haggis. And as an earnest of our intent, we are warning you that we're armed and practiced and ready to go (at least in the great State of Massachusetts)

 

[Brickjectivity]

Actually we did send Trump over there, already. Why didn't they keep him?

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Actually we did send Trump over there, already. Why didn't they keep him?

Trump is under the impression. that Scotland likes him.

This delusion would be shattered if he actually lived there.

 

[Brickjectivity]

Trump is under the impression. that Scotland likes him.

This delusion would be shattered if he actually lived there.

I think that once his mind is made up that's it. You tell him. I'll watch.

 

[BSM1]

Yep. If the cops weren't able to fire "less lethal" weapons at these people standing on their porch trying to figure out what was going on, they would have had to shoot them with bullets.



‘Light ‘Em Up!’: Video Appears To Show Law Enforcement Shooting Paint Rounds At Mpls. Residents On Their Porch

You do realize the cops were using paint balls and not rubber bullets in this case. If you were standing outside (for obviously no apparent reason) when ordered to stay inside for the safety of everyone during the time of civil unrest, then maybe you should expect some form on "motivation" to comply.

 

[BSM1]

I'm not trying to muddy anything. Quite the opposite.
How the heck is my question muddying anything?

It was a request for clarification. Sounded to me like the suggestion was that rubber bullets were only used in cases where civilians attacked police. That matches the rules of engagement in place in Northern Ireland where they were used.

But I don't believe that has been the case in the US.

And Northern Ireland proved that rubber bullets can be fatal.
(17 deaths attributed to them)

Then, for clarification, you might want to cite a specific case for us to discuss.

 

[Mindmaster]

And give up the opportunity for a mass five finger discount?

Yeah, because is a new pair of kicks worth a rubber bullet to the groin?

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

You do realize the cops were using paint balls and not rubber bullets in this case.

Yep. Rubber bullets would be worse, but even paintballs have the potential to seriously injure someone. Good thing they didn't connect with anyone in the face (on that porch, at least).

If you were standing outside (for obviously no apparent reason) when ordered to stay inside for the safety of everyone during the time of civil unrest, then maybe you should expect some form on "motivation" to comply.

Should you need to have a reason to be on your porch?

How do you feel about castle doctrine?

 

[BSM1]

Yep. Rubber bullets would be worse, but even paintballs have the potential to seriously injure someone. Good thing they didn't connect with anyone in the face (on that porch, at least).


Should you need to have a reason to be on your porch?

How do you feel about castle doctrine?

Would you honestly feel the same if these were Klan members flouting a curfew and taunting the police?

 

[BSM1]

Yeah, because is a new pair of kicks worth a rubber bullet to the groin?

What color?

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Then, for clarification, you might want to cite a specific case for us to discuss.

Why?
I was asking someone else if they believed police were using rubber bullets only in response to violence. I received no clarification.

Are you now suggesting police have been using rubber bullets only in response to violence?

 

[Twilight Hue]

Yeah, because is a new pair of kicks worth a rubber bullet to the groin?

I wonder if the police take bets on who can get who in that royal magic spot?

 

[Valjean]

People could always try not rioting and throwing **** at the police and then they have no reason to use either the tear gas or the rubber bullets.

Would you honestly feel the same if these were Klan members flouting a curfew and taunting the police?

As long as they stayed on their porches.

 

[Valjean]

Why?
I was asking someone else if they believed police were using rubber bullets only in response to violence. I received no clarification.

Are you now suggesting police have been using rubber bullets only in response to violence?

Police tend to spray bullets and gas in the general direction of people they perceive as unruly or behaving improperly. They don't reserve their ministrations to those breaking windows.
They'll also indiscriminately sweep up anyone in the area of a protest and haul them off to jail.

If the police were rendered less able to use violence to restore order, they might be more careful not to cause the disorder in the first place. It's usually the police who escalate confrontations to violence.

Police need to be more concerned with law and less with order. The two things that trigger anger in police are disorderly behavior, like protesting, and disrespect. Not all crowds need to be controlled.

They are not warriors. It's not us vs them. Their job is to protect and serve.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Would you honestly feel the same if these were Klan members flouting a curfew and taunting the police?

I notice you didn't answer my question: how do you feel about castle doctrine?

 

[Kenny]

Scotland votes to call for end to UK exports of tear gas and rubber bullets to US



I didn't even know we imported tear gas and rubber bullets from Scotland.



So, what will the police do if they can't use tear gas and rubber bullets? They might go back to using dogs and water cannons.

I don't think so. Some entrepreneur will say "A golden opportunity to reset my future". IMV

 

[BSM1]

Why?
I was asking someone else if they believed police were using rubber bullets only in response to violence. I received no clarification.

Are you now suggesting police have been using rubber bullets only in response to violence?

I wasn't suggesting anything except that rubber bullets are preferable to real bullets.

 

[Twilight Hue]

You do realize the cops were using paint balls and not rubber bullets in this case. If you were standing outside (for obviously no apparent reason) when ordered to stay inside for the safety of everyone during the time of civil unrest, then maybe you should expect some form on "motivation" to comply.

Yeah the paintballs was actually a stellar idea. A bit like the explosive bank dye bag.

The police can mark the real troublemakers and get them placed under arrest.

 

[BSM1]

I notice you didn't answer my question: how do you feel about castle doctrine?

I believe the "castle" doctrine does not, by definition, extend out to a police controlled situation outside your house. Or are you saying that as long as I am within the vicinity of my house, I am free to do as I please?