But...but...but....they're scary.
It shouldn't be a matter of law.
SCOTUS should rule based on popular opinion.
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SCOTUS Overturns Bump Stock Ban
- Thread starter Wandering Monk
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It shouldn't be a matter of law.
SCOTUS should rule based on popular opinion.
wellwisher
Well-Known Member
The Court appears to see the pitfall of defining a new law for all, based on the actions of a few bad guys. Say 99.99% do not require this law, due to being good citizens, why impose the law on all these people, for whom it does not apply? I do not own guns, but that law assumed I was a criminal need this warning. What did I do to deserve that?
It would be better to deal harshly with just the 0.01% crooks who screw up. Leave the good citizens alone. We can tie the bad guy to a target, and use his modified gun and empty the clip on the target. Let that be a warning to the crooks. The problem is the Left coddles criminals, and would prefer make the honest 99.99%, victims of a law, that does not apply to them, so the crook does not stand out as the bad guy. Serial killers become folk heroes, while their victims are forgotten. Does this create these monsters?
Lawyers donate the majority of their campaign donations to Democrats, who in turn make more and more laws for lawyer jobs. Republican prefer fewer laws but with teeth. Savaging otherwise good citizens, with laws that may not apply to them, adds more lawyer jobs, plus it helps to shelter the career criminals, who can become more anonymous in the 100% criminal world where one size law fits all.
In places where guns are illegal and good citizens follow the law, there are more victims, compared to where guns are legal and criminals think twice since potential victims are packing heat. That law benefitted the crooks, by defining everyone as a potential crook and thereby diluting the limited police that address the real crooks. An honest collector is target taking away police from the bad guys.
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Pogo
Well-Known Member
Trump and the government passed a law with the intention of banning bump stocks as is their function, Scotus agreed with an exception to the intent of the law due to a technicality in the way the law was written, It will be fixed, the rest of your post is actually irrelevant to the subject.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
We have more guns per capita than any other country and by far the highest mass shootings anywhere in the world, so maybe at least do the math.
McBell
Unbound
If you disagree with their claim that places where firearms are legal have less crime, you above quoted post does not show they are wrong.
Less crime doesn't mean there aren't more firearm deaths per capita. Is the trade off of less crime but more gun deaths worth it ? Idk?
McBell
Unbound
And?
I mean, the "more gun per capita and more mass shootings" was in reply to "where guns are legal there is less crime".
I am merely pointing out that "more guns per capita/more mass shootings" in no way refutes the "legal gun areas/less crime" claim.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
The Evidence
In a scholarly review of the relationship between gun prevalence and homicide almost 20 years ago, Harvard researchers concluded that available evidence supports the hypothesis that greater numbers of guns corresponds to higher rates of homicide.[1] In the years since, the evidence has strengthened at every level of analysis. Further, the hypothesis that more guns equates to more deaths has been supported using many different ways of measuring gun availability and access...
Wandering Monk
Well-Known Member
I think that if you check you will see that gun deaths per capita are lower in states with stricter gun controls.
Pogo
Well-Known Member
Why does Alabama have more gun deaths than New York?
Experts say lax gun laws, few social programs and poverty fuel the state’s gun violence
It is not just gun laws, it is as much poverty and lack of social programs, that damn liberal stuff and then, most firearm deaths are not even homicide.
another social disaster.
Suicide with a gun accounts for 54% of gun deaths, by the age of 60 it accounts for 75% of gun deaths and gets even worse with age. 96% of gun deaths of people over 80 are suicide. Don't give Grandma a gun to protect herself, she is about 25 times more likely to use it on herself than to be killed by an attacker with a gun.
Most firearm deaths are suicides
In 2021, 54% of firearm deaths in the US were suicides.
usafacts.org
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Is there a chance her kids were shot at?
We Never Know
No Slack
The 15 states along with the District of Columbia maintain their bans, which will likely remain in force.
Looks like not all dem states have them banned.
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Wandering Monk
Well-Known Member
Pogo
Well-Known Member
his objection, the legislation is too broad as it would ban other things that would do the same thing.
Oh, and the 2a never mind that the equivalent is already banned.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Of course, as the NRA and those others who elevate guns over human lives would certainly do. And which form of Christianity endorses such depravity? The answer should be "none".
We Never Know
No Slack
One thing I was thinking about. I see people saying this is because of Trumps stacked SCOTUS.
Have youns gave any thought to the fact that Trump is the one that banned bump stocks so in reality SCOTUS went against him and his ban.
Ironic, but not a contradiction.