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Second-hand information

We Never Know

No Slack
second-hand information:
-adjective.

"Not directly known or experienced; obtained from others or from books"

Fact is most of our knowledge is secondhand information so why do we spend so much time arguing about it?
Is it just human nature?
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
second-hand information:
-adjective.

"Not directly known or experienced; obtained from others or from books"

Fact is most of our knowledge is secondhand information so why do we spend so much time arguing about it?
Is it just human nature?
Beats me

When it comes to Spirituality, I don't argue about second hand information
 

We Never Know

No Slack
Beats me

When it comes to spirituality, I don't argue about second hand information

Lets say you believe in a god and I don't.
Why would I put effort into arguing with you about your life unless.. In no particular order...
1. Its personal
2. I want to bust your bubble
3. My life sucks and I'm bored
4. I'm offended
5. I'm looking for reason to believe
6. Etc... I could go on.

I see it like this... You believe, I don't. That's life. Lets both be happy with ourselves because it all comes to an end sooner or later for us both. What, if anything comes after that is unknown.
 
In many cases is ignorance.

Ignorance is not only ignoring about something but is also learning things wrong.

An individual spent years of his life and lots of money learning the wrong theory. It will be very hard for him to accept another explanation for the same phenomena.

Others never review the reading and accept it just because comes from a respectable institution. Unfortunately respectable institution is not synonymous of being correct with its statements.

Our knowledge is second hand information because we ourselves can't test everything. Scientists themselves have the same experience. When the fraudulent news saying that Relativity prediction won against Newton's prediction by confirmation of the plaques from 1919 expeditions, no one of the scientists traveled to review such plaques. They just lean on the received letter and accepted them because came from a prestigious institution. However, the winning was because make ups made on the plaques. the winner in that test was Newton's prediction.

But, even when the information is not obtained directly from our own sources, the discussions are not vain but totally the contrary, these bring new ideas which might serve for other different approaches and discoveries.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
Lets say you believe in a god and I don't.
Why would I put effort into arguing with you about your life unless.. In no particular order...
1. Its personal
2. I want to bust your bubble
3. My life sucks and I'm bored
4. I'm offended
5. I'm looking for reason to believe
6. Etc... I could go on.

I see it like this... You believe, I don't. That's life. Lets both be happy with ourselves because it all comes to an end sooner or later for us both. What, if anything comes after that is unknown.
Just to be clear in case my post was not clear, I agree with this post AND with the OP

I just responded that I prefer to only share first hand experience when it comes to Spiritual matters, and have no need to argue about second hand info, hence I never debate about Spiritual things
 

Brickjectivity

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
second-hand information:
-adjective.

"Not directly known or experienced; obtained from others or from books"

Fact is most of our knowledge is secondhand information so why do we spend so much time arguing about it?
Is it just human nature?
You ask 'Why'. Is that rhetorical, or are you asking for psychological reasons that people tend to do this?
 

Brickjectivity

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
It is psychological. Why get jealous? Why can't one woman be the boyfriend of two husbands? Why won't we accept it? Its not complicated. Its not as if she couldn't handle two. Human psychology precludes this becoming common. We would kill each other if this were commonplace.

So why do we argue about second hand information? It derives with the same instantaneous reaction speed as jealousy. We don't trust someone who has a different perspective. The moment they disagree we immediately go into energy saving mode. We don't want to think about two perspectives. Its energy saving to leave the thinking up to a leader or to someone else that we have already listened to.

Sometimes we have the mental energy. We want to explore the options. Usually we do not.
 
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SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
second-hand information:
-adjective.

"Not directly known or experienced; obtained from others or from books"

Fact is most of our knowledge is secondhand information so why do we spend so much time arguing about it?
Is it just human nature?
Well to be fair, no one is born with the universal knowledge of all things. That’s why we have schools.


But yes, I do agree that all our knowledge, for better or worse, comes from other sources. That’s why I, personally, think it’s imperative that we vet our sources to the best of our ability. In all matters.
Literature, art, politics, science etc
I know that I haven’t lived up to that ideal, but I strive to
 

MikeF

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Lets say you believe in a god and I don't.
Why would I put effort into arguing with you about your life unless.. In no particular order...
1. Its personal
2. I want to bust your bubble
3. My life sucks and I'm bored
4. I'm offended
5. I'm looking for reason to believe
6. Etc... I could go on.

I see it like this... You believe, I don't. That's life. Lets both be happy with ourselves because it all comes to an end sooner or later for us both. What, if anything comes after that is unknown.

You are failing to acknowledge that what people believe affects their behavior and the choices they make. We are not isolated islands that never interact with others. We are a social species, and as such, we must be able to live and interact with each other, which means we need rules to resolve conflicting needs, wants, and desires of many different individuals. Those rules will be informed by our beliefs.

Beliefs matter to everyone.
 
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