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Secret Service protecting Biden grand daughter opens fire on car thieves.
- Thread starter Twilight Hue
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Alien826
No religious beliefs
I don't think we know enough (yet) to make that kind of judgment.
Why not? All kinds of politicians and their relatives get SS protection. Is the reason that hard to understand?
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I thought the SS was just for the president and immediate family members.
Didn't know it expanded to secondary family members.
The criminals were breaking into her car. What the **** did you want them to ask about? Why are you breaking into her car? Bull****. I'm 100% OK with them shooting in that situation.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Soandso
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To be fair, SS is not law enforcement; they are bodyguards. Their job is to protect their clients, often times by any means necessary, and the high status of their clients truly guarantees "by any means necessary"
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I can see that in a case like car jacking and the like, but this was about property and of which Bidens grand daughter was in no personal danger.
Also they do have the power of arrest making them special status police officers.
So an SS agent potentially needs some retraining. Other than that its largely a nothing burger.I can see that in a case like car jacking and the like, but this was about property and of which Bidens grand daughter was in no personal danger.
Also they do have the power of arrest making them special status police officers.
I saw that. Shoot to kill over breaking a car window?
This bespeaks very poor judgement & training.
I wonder about an organization that is so bedeviled
by sex & booze scandals.
McBell
Unbound
Shoot who?
If you read the article, no one was hit.
So does that mean the SS agents who fired the shot is the worse marksman ever or is it because the shot was not intended to hit anyone?
No way of knowing as we do not have enough information to know.
If you don't intend to hit someone you don't fire your gun. I assume a Secret Security agent knows that.
There may be more to this story than we currently know.
I think they're under Presidential authority, so it seems the President could order it. I don't know how far it goes, though.
I heard that one of the presidential candidates requested Secret Service protection and was denied.
Given the increasingly lawless nature of Washington DC these days, they might have to have security personnel on every street corner and patrolling throughout the city. (And that's just for the criminals on the streets. For the criminals inside the buildings, that's another matter entirely.)
I think the fact they were specifically trying to hijack a secret service vehicle might be part of the disproportionate response.
Really bad luck for the car thief.
I know police in Canada take hijacking a police vehicle really seriously because they don't want the encrypted police comms falling into the wrong hands. Not sure what might be in a service car though.
Really bad luck for the car thief.
I know police in Canada take hijacking a police vehicle really seriously because they don't want the encrypted police comms falling into the wrong hands. Not sure what might be in a service car though.
Bah. Not true. I was trained to give a warning shot in some instances.
You never shoot to injure/maim. You either warning shot and miss. Or you hit center mass to kill. No in between.
That's news to me.
Excerpted...
"The idea of warning shots has been prohibited for decades in policing," says Lou Hayes Jr., a police officer and trainer with the Virtus Group Inc. "And to now open the door up again is pretty eye-opening."
There's never been a binding national rule against warning shots, but the IACP used to recommend that departments ban the practice. Leading agencies such as the New York Police Department have long had such bans in place.
The main concern is the risk. "When you raise the gun and blindly fire, you don't know where that bullet will land," says Massad Ayoob, a longtime cop and widely respected firearms trainer. "A few decades ago I followed a case in New England where the guy raised his gun, fired what he thought was into the air, and the bullet struck and killed someone on the top floor porch of a nearby tenement building."
We Never Know
No Slack
It says "they caught three people attempting to break into a parked, unmarked Secret Service vehicle in the area"
How were anyones life in danger?
Is it now ok to shoot someone trying to break into a parked car?
I thought they were federal law enforcement. But I pretty much agree with the rest.
They are.
(I knew this because they once arrested
a couple for insulting Bill Clinton.)
About Us
We are a federal law enforcement agency with headquarters in Washington, D.C., and more than 150 offices throughout the United States and abroad.
immunity. They have absolute immunity. They
can do anything, & not be sued in civil court.
This includes one case of attempted murder
of a man over a personal matter.
I'm not sure what you expected.
Thanks. I see. The first sentence.They are....
About Us
We are a federal law enforcement agency with headquarters in Washington, D.C., and more than 150 offices throughout the United States and abroad.www.secretservice.gov
I know they work on financial crimes, especially counterfeiting. That seemed like law enforcement.