Senate Republicans oppose Reproductive Freedom for Women.

[Saint Frankenstein]

People have the right to resist social pressure.
But you would use government backed up by
threat of violence to "pressure" women to give
birth when they want otherwise.

That's what I call specious labeling.

Why don't you support your claim of forced
sterilization being a consequence of abortion
rights.

So you would deny all women abortion rights
simply because of your social engineering agenda
to populate the country with more people from
"bad areas"?

I can't have a discussion with you when you're blatantly making up things about what I think. What "claim of forced sterilization being a consequence of abortion
rights"? What are you talking about? The claim to force women to give birth is just an attempt at character assassination, as well. Fix your comprehension skills, go back and read posts, whatever you need to do, as I cannot work with this.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

A "Christian" on abortion and Democrats.

 

[Revoltingest]

I can't have a discussion with you when you're blatantly making up things about what I think.

I describe what I see in your posts.
And it ain't pretty.

What "claim of forced sterilization being a consequence of abortion
rights"?

When your posts are short on reasoning,
& seem more like meandering rants, it's
difficult to discern your meaning.
If you don't believe that it does, just say so.

What are you talking about? The claim to force women to give birth is just an attempt at character assassination, as well. Fix your comprehension skills, go back and read posts, whatever you need to do, as I cannot work with this.

If you oppose abortion rights, then this is
to force women to give birth. If you believe
otherwise, I'd like to read your argument.

 

[McBell]

I can't have a discussion with you when you're blatantly making up things about what I think. What "claim of forced sterilization being a consequence of abortion
rights"? What are you talking about? The claim to force women to give birth is just an attempt at character assassination, as well. Fix your comprehension skills, go back and read posts, whatever you need to do, as I cannot work with this.

Not allowing women to get an abortion is forcing the woman to give birth.
No idea why that concept is so difficult for the anti-women crowd.

 

[Revoltingest]

Not allowing women to get an abortion is forcing the woman to give birth.
No idea why that concept is so difficult for the anti-women crowd.

Inability to face it when beliefs
lead to cognitive dissonance.

 

[Koldo]

Senate Republicans block Democratic bill codifying Roe v. Wade abortion protections

The legislation, which states that “protections for access to abortion rights ... should be supported," was blocked by Republicans who panned it as a "show vote."

www.nbcnews.com

This was a messaging bill, that should be understood. But the Republican Senators have sent their message to American women. They do not support reproductive rights for women. Don't forget that. This is an issue that the Republican Party really cares about, they want to take away rights from women. You can see this in project 2025, you can see it in Agenda 47, you can see it in the RNC platform. And you can see it in the vote on this bill.

What do you mean by 'access'?
As in being legal or as in being free of charge?
If the latter, I oppose.

 

[We Never Know]

Then you have not been paying attention.

Girl, 13, gives birth after she was raped and denied abortion in Mississippi

The nearest abortion clinic – in Chicago – was too far away and too expensive for her mother to provide her with the procedure

www.theguardian.com

Her baby was going to die. Abortion laws forced her to give birth anyway

Instead of being able to end her pregnancy, a Texas mother spent months carrying a child she knew wasn’t going to survive. Her daughter died four hours after being born.

www.cnn.com

Are you talking about women being forced into abortions by the state? In the U.S.? Recently? If so that is horrible and should be opposed strongly. But not by denying other women control over their bodies.

Yes reproductive coercion goes both ways(to have a child or to have an abortion).

Reproductive coercion - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[fantome profane]

What do you mean by 'access'?
As in being legal or as in being free of charge?
If the latter, I oppose.

I mean being legal, and the government not interfering.



Personally as an extreme leftist myself I would go so far as to say that it should be affordable so that even low income people can make that decision without going into debt, but I realize that might be to far for this audience, so I will just keep it about being legal.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Are you talking about women being forced into abortions by the state? In the U.S.? Recently? If so that is horrible and should be opposed strongly. But not by denying other women control over their bodies.

No. It's the fathers and the family forcing women into abortions, usually. There's a lot of shame and hurt surrounding this subject and so it's not spoken about much, but it's apparently not uncommon, as same as how general abuse and violence in close relationships is fairly common.

 

[fantome profane]

No. It's the fathers and the family forcing women into abortions, usually. There's a lot of shame and hurt surrounding this subject and so it's not spoken about much, but it's apparently not uncommon, as same as how general abuse and violence in close relationships is fairly common.

Ok, that is wrong. We are in complete agreement on that.


But that is not a reason to deny abortion rights to those women who do want or need one.

 

[McBell]

No. It's the fathers and the family forcing women into abortions, usually.

Source.

 

[Revoltingest]

I mean being legal, and the government not interfering.



Personally as an extreme leftist myself I would go so far as to say that it should be affordable so that even low income people can make that decision without going into debt, but I realize that might be to far for this audience, so I will just keep it about being legal.

It's good public policy to enhance liberty
in a manner that costs little, yet yields
results very important to the beneficiary.

It is cruel indeed to force poor women to
give birth to unwanted babies.

 

[Laniakea]

Is an "unborn child" really a child? Would you buy an unblown vase, an unglazed plate, or an unmade table? All these things are works in progress, but that vase is not a vase while it's a blob of glass on the end of the blowpipe, the plate that hasn't had glaze applied and fixed in the kiln isn't yet dinnerware, nor the table without legs, stain and varnish a table.

Any young woman who has used chemical abortion to kill her unborn baby and then has the misfortune of passing it into the toilet and gets to see something with a head, body, 2 arms, and 2 legs ends up realizing that yes, this was really a child.
But that's what Big Pharma does to women who use their product.

 

[Quintessence]

Any young woman who has used chemical abortion to kill her unborn baby and then has the misfortune of passing it into the toilet and gets to see something with a head, body, 2 arms, and 2 legs ends up realizing that yes, this was really a child.

This is a child?

The Issue of Tissue | myanetwork

 

[Subduction Zone]

Any young woman who has used chemical abortion to kill her unborn baby and then has the misfortune of passing it into the toilet and gets to see something with a head, body, 2 arms, and 2 legs ends up realizing that yes, this was really a child.
But that's what Big Pharma does to women who use their product.

LOL! You cannot kill something that does not exist.

 

[We Never Know]

LOL! You cannot kill something that does not exist.

If its alive, its being killed.

 

[Subduction Zone]

If its alive, its being killed.

It's not a baby. You should know this. I never said that it was not killed.

 

[Laniakea]

It's not a baby. You should know this. I never said that it was not killed.

You claimed it didn't even exist.

LOL! You cannot kill something that does not exist.

You should keep better track of your claims.

 

[Viker]

A "Christian" on abortion and Democrats.

My opinion. You shouldn't have a tax exempt status if you're telling people how to or not to vote, and running a business (most churches these days).

 

[Shaul]

Senate Republicans block Democratic bill codifying Roe v. Wade abortion protections

The legislation, which states that “protections for access to abortion rights ... should be supported," was blocked by Republicans who panned it as a "show vote."

www.nbcnews.com

This was a messaging bill, that should be understood. But the Republican Senators have sent their message to American women. They do not support reproductive rights for women. Don't forget that. This is an issue that the Republican Party really cares about, they want to take away rights from women. You can see this in project 2025, you can see it in Agenda 47, you can see it in the RNC platform. And you can see it in the vote on this bill.

Wrong. Opposing this messaging bill (your phrasing) does not equal opposing abortion. Furthermore you are misstating the Republican Party platform which has been newly revised. The latest Republican Party policy on abortion is that there should be no Federal bans on abortion but that abortion policy should be set at the state level.