Separate Church and State - Not God and State

[Wleeper]

Read this essay on National Morality.Com
www.nationalmorality.com

 

[Pah]

Isn't this covered in another thread - The Role of Religion in the American Political System?

 

[Wleeper]

You'll never know until you read the essay.

 

[Pah]

You'll never know until you read the essay.

I'll pass and await the "Readers Digest" version

 

[Ceridwen018]

I thought most of our 'founding fathers' were deists...

 

[Wleeper]

Wrong again

 

[Pah]

I thought most of our 'founding fathers' were deists...

Wrong again

I thought the Declaration of Independance was very strongly deist in what little it said about God.

But Wleeper is right that many of the "founding fathers" were register to Christian denominations of the time. and some even attended services. But of those who did attend many were like George Washington and did not particiapte in the service but merely accompained his wife.

I guess you could say the "founding mothers" were Christian.

By the time when it became necessary to frame the Constitution, even Deist disappeared from the political thoughts of the "fathers".

As I've said elsewhere, we were and are a nation of Christians (on the whole) but not, by design, a Christian Nation.

 

[Master Vigil]

Church and state is the same as god and state. For which god do you not want to separate from state? You would say the christian god, and I would say. That is church.

 

[Wleeper]

So you tell me what rights edowed by the creator is it that, according to our Declaration of Independence, our government was established to secure

 

[Pah]

So you tell me what rights edowed by the creator is it that, according to our Declaration of Independence, our government was established to secure

From the Declaration Of Independence:

...that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness ...

So just three of many are mentioned. I find a simularity in the words of your post and the DoI - I think you knew the answer all along. seeing as the rights are bracketed by the words you used.

Why do you ask?

 

[Wleeper]

So who is the Creator being referred to?

 

[Pah]

So who is the Creator being referred to?

A Deist god.

A god based on natural religion only discoverable by a process of reasoning with no leap of faith, I might add. One who created the world and then ceased to have any interaction

Wleeper - why didn't you answer my question about why you asked about rights? I don't think this is supposed to be an interegation. but a discussion.