Sex education. And why people are ashamed of speaking of sex

[JustGeorge]

That's a theory.
A theory has zero scientific value.

I'm not worried about the scientific value... just curious how such a person might conduct themselves.

 

[Father Heathen]

My sex education came from the streets, since it occurred before Liberalism commandeered education. That advice would come from friends, older brothers, young uncles, and older cousins, who also might also buy you beer at 13. They knew a teen was curious about adult games; sex, drinking, etc. and would help out to keep an eye on you. It is quite basic. I not sure why it ever needed a formal education,

Because far too many kids are never properly educated about sex, obviously. Your personal antidotal tale doesn't change that.

Today you can watch training films on the internet to polish your style; porn. There is a type of performance ritual.

You really think porn reflects healthy IRL relationships?

Back in the day, it was not considered wise to talk about sex, if it was with someone you liked or loved, other than to say you have sex. Taking about it, among males, made your beloved seem more like an affair, and therefore up for grabs. If you speak of them as a bimbo, the dogs of the group would assume they were available. Telling sex stories was restricted to bimbos. Bimbos were not too close and you did not mind passing them around, to get out and move on. Girls may have different standards for sex gossip. It was also something you would not to talk to with new girls, since that would make you a dog and they would have to accept more responsibility. You were required to pretend no sex until later, to get sex; by pass their inhibition of being labeled.

This sounds more like a problem with men objectifying and shaming women than it is with discussing sexual topics.

It was also connected to being polite in public and not rubbing people faces in your good times. Showing off was more for you and could make some sensitive people squeamish, or even upset others, if their sex life did not add up for them.

While being mindful of other people's sensitivities is the polite thing to do, being squeamish and prudish over sex and nudity is still irrational.

We are now less of an intellectual culture with conscience and more of an entertainment culture, where the players like to show off an play games. But that seems counter productive for me. At this time in life, I tend to stay celibate most of the time. I had my fill and it would not be polite to speak of those times. My early unconscious mind research gave me mojo.

Treating sex like a taboo instead of discussing it openly like rational adults helped fuel this culture. Why don't other countries who are open about sexuality have these problems?

 

[Estro Felino]

I'm not worried about the scientific value... just curious how such a person might conduct themselves.

I think ...well...a person who sounds and looks very poised and dignified with their friends and colleagues, and walks away whenever someone brings up "certain topics", showing lack of interest.
Even if the night before they experimented the entire kama sutra with their own spouse.

 

[Quintessence]

And it turns out, as a great European psychologist said, that the most sexually active people are the ones who are the most sexophobic.
As a self-defense mechanism.

Clearly, this person never interacted with any asexuals or didn't mind utterly mischaracterizing them.

 

[Estro Felino]

Clearly, this person never interacted with any asexuals or didn't mind utterly mischaracterizing them.

I would suggest Totem and Taboo by Sigmund Freud.

 

[Starise]

Good question. I think there should probably be boundaries if men and women are discussing those things. I mean, I really don't need to know if someone is having their monthly cycle, or comparitive experiences with their husbands or boy friends, but in the company of similar friends maybe it's ok. Those are my boundaries and if they are crossed I will no longer keep company with that person, as it leads me to think with my lower self. Not a good thing for a married man, especially if it involves another female.

'Sex" as in the connection between individuals is generally seen in most cultures as something that is a private thing and something we don't generally discuss out in the open. My background is in mainly working with men, some of which are/were rather gritty. They would not talk about it in the presence of most women more out of respect than shame. They are wolves and if a woman seen the real wolf it's more of a turn off for most in addition to being insulting, so they have different approaches all depending on the group.

Many boundaries have been relaxed and I don't believe it ever leads to anything good. That's why I don't travel in those circles. I don't have a need to get any, but even if I did, I would look for someone compatible for life and not a one night stand.

I realize not everyone thinks the way I do and some people like to push envelopes. There is only ever so far to get with a woman and after that there are the consequences. If a man wants to pick up a lady he would probably flirt and say the kinds of things that we know leave no doubt what he is after.And sure determination pays off if that's what one is after. Sex is a complicated subject and there really is a kind of 'dance' around it that draws one to another. I know pretty much everything there is to know about sex trust me, and all by itself it's an empty pursuit for only a short time of 'fun'. It can be like a high and all highs need a refill and can create a dependence. Sex tied to love is unrivaled.