Sexual Fluidity

[Badran]

For like 99% of the time or so, i'm attracted to people who happen to be women. For the remaining 1%, i can be attracted to anybody else too, given certain things. It revolves mostly around characteristics i'm attracted to. When these are found in someone who is not a woman, i can be attracted to them. When a woman doesn't have them, i'm not attracted to her.

To identify as bisexual or pan-sexual based on that i think would be really misleading. Since the truth of the matter is i'm almost always only attracted to women. So this sexually fluid label seems more relevant to me here. It describes both my previous experience and future possible ones, and recognizes that despite the label of heterosexual being helpful, that naturally, it's not sufficient to properly describe or categorize my attributes in this regard.

 

[dawny0826]

For like 99% of the time or so, i'm attracted to people who happen to be women. For the remaining 1%, i can be attracted to anybody else too, given certain things. It revolves mostly around characteristics i'm attracted to. When these are found in someone who is not a woman, i can be attracted to them. When a woman doesn't have them, i'm not attracted to her.

To identify as bisexual or pan-sexual based on that i think would be really misleading. Since the truth of the matter is i'm almost always only attracted to women. So this sexually fluid label seems more relevant to me here. It describes both my previous experience and future possible ones, and recognizes that despite the label of heterosexual being helpful, that naturally, it's not sufficient to properly describe or categorize my attributes in this regard.

As a sexually fluid individual, you would not only accept your 1% attraction to men, but, you would also feel free to act upon such attraction, without the resctrictions of labels.

 

[Badran]

As a sexually fluid individual, you would not only accept your 1% attraction to men, but, you would also feel free to act upon such attraction, without the resctrictions of labels.

Pretty much.

I have and i would.

 

[Triumphant_Loser]

I just think it's more acceptable for females to be "sexually fluid" and to express romantic and sexual attraction for other females than it is for males to do so with other males. There is still a ton of bigotry/prejudice against male homosexuality in culture that it will be much more difficult to change that. Female homosexuality has its stigmas but it's not as bad.

As for me I'm pansexual, meaning that I can be attracted to a person regardless of their gender identity or biological sex (I like men, women, transgender/transsexual people, etc). I prefer to call myself a queer, though, because it is a more subversive term. I don't like "straight", "gay", "lesbian" and "bisexual" as labels because I feel that they are too limiting. Of course any label is limiting in a way, but if I have to label myself, I prefer one that affords me the most amount of freedom.

As someone who considers themself bi, I personally dislike the term "queer." I think most people think of "exclusively homosexual" when the word queer is used. Also I don't think attraction to the same gender is as "queer" as people make it out to be, and is more common than people are willing to admit.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

As someone who considers themself bi, I personally dislike the term "queer." I think most people think of "exclusively homosexual" when the word queer is used. Also I don't think attraction to the same gender is as "queer" as people make it out to be, and is more common than people are willing to admit.

If you don't like it, then don't use it. I use it in the way denoted in this article:

Queer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I don't like the term "bisexual" because it inherently implies a binary, which I reject.

I also call myself a "f****t" sometimes. *shrugs*

 

[Father Heathen]

I view it like Kinsey did, on a spectrum.

Right; i.e. bisexual with a strong leaning toward one gender over the other.

 

[Father Heathen]

My question is, what do you see wrong with identifying someone who dabbles with either sex but unlike a bisexual, identifies as gay or straight, if that's what they do?

What if I identified as a vegan, but ate meat?

 

[dawny0826]

What if I identified as a vegan, but eat meat?

That's hot.

 

[Triumphant_Loser]

If you don't like it, then don't use it. I use it in the way denoted in this article:

Queer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I don't like the term "bisexual" because it inherently implies a binary, which I reject.

I also call myself a "f****t" sometimes. *shrugs*

I have no problem with other people who identify as "queer" though. I've just always considered myself "bi" because I personally have only ever been attracted to those who identify as cis-female or cis-male, but as they say, "different strokes for different folks." Also...sorry if my last post came across as too blunt.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I have no problem with other people who identify as "queer" though. I've just always considered myself "bi" because I personally have only ever been attracted to those who identify as cis-female or cis-male, but as they say, "different strokes for different folks." Sorry if my last post came across as too blunt.

No, it's quite all right. Lol. I guess you're the "truest" definition of a bisexual, then. I can't fit into that paradigm, being that I'm a transsexual male who has a strong attraction to trans women, (male bodied) androgynes, cis males (well, their bodies, anyway) and cis women. Hell, I like trans men, too. I like everybody! Well, at least I'm willing to have a romp with someone regardless of their gender identity or physical sex. When it comes to romantic attraction, I'm pretty much into femme people no matter their genital setup. I haven't felt strong romantic attraction to an obviously masculine male or female. I'm a femmesexual. I'd get it on with a masculine guy, though.

 

[Badran]

Right; i.e. bisexual with a strong leaning toward one gender over the other.

I think that implies though that both genders have at least some form of considerable chance. When in truth that would not necessarily be the case.

I think what you said is technically correct, but that it's not helpful in describing one's self when the difference between the attraction levels is this vast.

 

[Penumbra]

What if I identified as a vegan, but ate meat?

If a vegan tries meat once during the course of a ten year period, would the term vegan be a completely inappropriate description for her?

 

[Father Heathen]

If a vegan tries meat once during the course of a ten year period, would the term vegan be a completely inappropriate description for her?

Omni-curious (as in omnivore).

 

[dawny0826]

Omni-curious (as in omnivore).

That's perfect!

 

[dawny0826]

If a vegan tries meat once during the course of a ten year period, would the term vegan be a completely inappropriate description for her?

Aren't we missing the point? To apply this to the logic of sexual fluidity...

The vegan isn't really a vegan because the label is irrelevent. (Free eater, come on, now.) The vegan is a fluid eater, who eats what they want, dabbling here and there, without worry as to label.

 

[Triumphant_Loser]

No, it's quite all right. Lol. I guess you're the "truest" definition of a bisexual, then. I can't fit into that paradigm, being that I'm a transsexual male who has a strong attraction to trans women, (male bodied) androgynes, cis males (well, their bodies, anyway) and cis women. Hell, I like trans men, too. I like everybody! Well, at least I'm willing to have a romp with someone regardless of their gender identity or physical sex. When it comes to romantic attraction, I'm pretty much into femme people no matter their genital setup. I haven't felt strong romantic attraction to an obviously masculine male or female. I'm a femmesexual. I'd get it on with a masculine guy, though.

Ok cool. Pre-op or post-op?

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Ok cool. Pre-op or post-op?

I haven't done anything medically yet. I'm working on starting hormone therapy. I've found (actually my doctor found) a doctor experienced in that matter who is willing to work with my primary care physician on that. I have my first appointment with her next month. It's been a long road.

 

[Triumphant_Loser]

What if I identified as a vegan, but ate meat?

It depends, did you just "experiment" with meat-eating while drunk?

 

[Skwim]

Yeah. That's just nonsensical, contradictory rubbish not worth taking seriously.

Suit yourself
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[Badran]

The vegan isn't really a vegan because the label is irrelevent. (Free eater, come on, now.) The vegan is a fluid eater, who eats what they want, dabbling here and there, without worry as to label.

There is a difference between not being restricted by a label and between finding irrelevant.

The heterosexual label is relevant because it describes what is almost entirely the case, but it is not sufficient.

Neither is bisexual, since it is incredibly misleading in this case. Added labels or clarifications are required in both cases, thus it makes more sense to go with what describes the vast majority of your attraction reality.

IOW, fluid heterosexual rather than bisexual leaning towards one gender or the other.