Shakespeare too sexual for Florida’s schools?

[Stevicus]

Oh what the heck:

In Plain Facts, Kellogg suggested anesthesia-free circumcisions for masturbating adolescent boys because “the brief pain attending the operation will have a salutary effect upon the mind, especially if it be connected with the idea of punishment.” And if circumcision wasn’t an option? He recommended parents have their son’s foreskins sewn onto the shaft of their penis with a metal wire so that every erection is met with blinding pain and shame. For girls, he advised parents to apply carbolic acid to their daughter’s clitoris, writing that this method provides an “excellent means of allaying the abnormal excitement.”

The Disturbing True Story of Kellogg’s Anti-Masturbation Cereal

Have you ever wondered who invented cheese? Or big, crusty bread? Seriously: How did anyone know to combine ground-up grains with water and yeast and...

melmagazine.com

Wow. I guess that gives a new meaning to "Snap, Crackle, and Pop."

 

[Esteban X]

Could be. I recall hearing a story about a band from the 70s (can't remember which) where the record company actually wanted them to have a song that would be banned on the radio. They thought it would increase publicity and record sales. I wish I could remember which band it was. But the old "forbidden fruit" syndrome seems to work.

God Save The Queen by the Sex Pistols got to no. 1 with zero radio play. Is that what you are thinking of?

 

[Callisto]

Makes you wonder what of our culture will be classic four hundred years from now.

A night at the Symphony a few hundred years in the future, celebrating 20th century lyrical poetry...

 

[YmirGF]

Sad to say but there's a percentage on forums even now who think that women have the sex drive of deck chairs and the like in comparison to men. They obviously haven't met many...

Hehe. Fun fact: In my conversations with a transgender former sex-worker, one thing we agreed on almost immediately is that most straight men are lousy lovers who think they are god's gift to mankind in the bedroom. Being a conservative, gay man, I pegged the percentage at about 75% of men were like this. Selena countered with, "**** that, it's more like 95%."

and... welcome to the forum. Hopefully, the wolf pack will be kind.

 

[Arthur Brain]

Hehe. Fun fact: In my conversations with a transgender former sex-worker, one thing we agreed on almost immediately is that most straight men are lousy lovers who think they are god's gift to mankind in the bedroom. Being a conservative, gay man, I pegged the percentage at about 75% of men were like this. Selena countered with, "**** that, it's more like 95%."

and... welcome to the forum. Hopefully, the wolf pack will be kind.

Thanks for the welcome back.

Another fun fact: I was once called gay and homophobic within the space of a few hours. Firstly because I disagreed with a poster on another forum that homosexuality should be made a criminal offence again and then with a friend who thought I was against gays by saying that I was straight.

Life can be fun and I've got a pretty thick skin, especially after certain forums...

 

[Stevicus]

God Save The Queen by the Sex Pistols got to no. 1 with zero radio play. Is that what you are thinking of?

That could be it, if it was banned on the radio.

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

Hehe. Fun fact: In my conversations with a transgender former sex-worker, one thing we agreed on almost immediately is that most straight men are lousy lovers who think they are god's gift to mankind in the bedroom. Being a conservative, gay man, I pegged the percentage at about 75% of men were like this. Selena countered with, "**** that, it's more like 95%."

and... welcome to the forum. Hopefully, the wolf pack will be kind.

Though I should be better than to stereotype people and I want to express that I usually try to avoid it these days as sometimes it can be inaccurate and insensitive.... I'll join in for the sake of fun...

I feel that some straight men out there, not necessarily any on RF, are kind of like a walking stereotype of blandness. Though, I think that number is more like "under 50%".

Then there are some gay men who are their own stereotype. Kind of men that all look like this:

And tell you that they're going to recite you poetry, post 5 words they come up with, and ask the person, "So when you coming over?'

I actually know of some stereotypes that work for women too, but they are more complex. Nothing I could sum up in less than several paragraphs.

 

[Arthur Brain]

Hmm...If it's Keeping up with the Kardashians, I hereby state my intentions to retire from humanity 400 years from now.

Don't forget, there's always reruns and if you aren't retiring for 400 years...

Lawks.

 

[Arthur Brain]

Though I should be better than to stereotype people and I want to express that I usually try to avoid it these days as sometimes it can be inaccurate and insensitive.... I'll join in for the sake of fun...

I feel that some straight men out there, not necessarily any on RF, are kind of like a walking stereotype of blandness. Though, I think that number is more like "under 50%".

Then there are some gay men who are their own stereotype. Kind of men that all look like this:

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And tell you that they're going to recite you poetry, post 5 words they come up with, and ask the person, "So when you coming over?'

I actually know of some stereotypes that work for women too, but they are more complex. Nothing I could sum up in less than several paragraphs.

Well, stereotyping people into any tag be it sexuality or politics, religion etc is usually a cul de sac as who, really, wants to be compartmentalized into one facet of who they actually are? It's usually exaggerated in my experience anyway and often as a cheap insult that doesn't go anywhere or some useless label. Anyone enjoy being patronized?

No?

Same here. Same thing applies.

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

Well, stereotyping people into any tag be it sexuality or politics, religion etc is usually a cul de sac as who,really, wants to be compartmentalized into one facet of who they actually are? It's usually exaggerated in my experience anyway and often as a cheap insult that doesn't go anywhere or some useless label. Anyone enjoy being patronized?

No?

Same here. Same thing applies.

True. Although, sometimes it just feels like dating sites, where some of these experiences occured, have some really fake personalities on them. While I think we shouldn't judge normal people so harshly, when it comes to the 2-dimensional personalities on dating sites, it's hard not to make observations.

 

[Arthur Brain]

True. Although, sometimes it just feels like dating sites, where some of these experiences occured, have some really fake personalities on them. While I think we shouldn't judge normal people so harshly, when it comes to the 2-dimensional personalities on dating sites, it's hard not to make observations.

Well, dating sites are notorious for fake accounts and whatnot but what do you mean by judging 'normal people' just to clarify?

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

Well, dating sites are notorious for fake accounts and whatnot but what do you mean by judging 'normal people' just to clarify?

When I say "normal people", I'm talking about the people not engaging in toxic hookup culture on dating sites.

 

[Arthur Brain]

When I say "normal people", I'm talking about the people not engaging in toxic hookup culture on dating sites.

Okay, fair enough. My replies on this thread will hopefully clarify I'm completely against any stuff like that.

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

Okay, fair enough. My replies on this thread will hopefully clarify I'm completely against any stuff like that.

Cool.

And I hope people understand that I strive not to stereotype people these days in general, as I consider it part of a "lower nature", but I had just reached a period where I spent most of the day here with serious debates and talking philosophy, and I wanted to try being a bit less formal and getting out of my shell.

 

[Arthur Brain]

Cool.

And I hope people understand that I strive not to stereotype people these days in general, as I consider it part of a "lower nature", but I had just reached a period where I spent most of the day here with serious debates and talking philosophy, and I wanted to try being a bit less formal and getting out of my shell.

Hey, that's cool here.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

I feel that some straight men out there, not necessarily any on RF, are kind of like a walking stereotype of blandness. Though, I think that number is more like "under 50%".

Might be me. I struggle to care much how the general population perceive me, but people who don't know me well probably see me in a pretty shallow way.

White middle aged, middle manager, likes sports,family, 3 kids, drinks beer, etc.

 

[Lotus Jewel]

Apparently schools, in order to comply with the “don’t say gay bill” (?) DeSantis has enacted for schools, many schools are now heavily editing what parts of Shakespeare is being taught. Only allowing certain sections of his plays to be read for class, due to how bawdy they often are (which they absolutely are.)

My first impulse would be to call this yet further proof that many within the GOP's ranks see themselves as the morality police for the country. They're behaving in a way very similar to the Saudi government.

What they're doing goes to the extent of denialism of the human experience. They're essentially deciding which aspects of human desire and emotion are appropriate to entertain and are trying to condition children that anything else is to be pushed off and ignored.

I'm not saying of course that certain things shouldn't be determined indecent or immoral upon examination, but that's an entirely different thing than saying that one shouldn't be free to examine these things at all. That these things are to be buried away in a dark corner and never even given consideration, upon fear of punishment.

It is essentially dictated morality that many in the present GOP are going for, rather than examined, reasoned, and inferred values. The logic is that the people in charge know best and will tell everybody what is off-limits for ideological exploration.

The right accuses the left of doing this, but I've never seen anyone on the left suggest that books like Mein Kampf must be pulled from shelves and never even so much as read or considered*. This is what the militant Evangelical element of the GOP does.

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*Someone on the left may very well advocate for something like that, but I've never personally seen it.

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

Might be me. I struggle to care much how the general population perceive me, but people who don't know me well probably see me in a pretty shallow way.

White middle aged, middle manager, likes sports,family, 3 kids, drinks beer, etc.

When I made the post about some men being bland, I envisioned a very specific caricature of a man wearing a business suit and acting extremely civilized, but then if they saw a spider, they'd freak out and ask a woman to smash it.

Myself saying this says something about me too, though - it's that people in fancy business suits sometimes make me feel uncomfortable. I guess it traces back to my teenage days where I hung out with some of the kind of people you'd find on Myspace, whereas blue collar business people seem quite opposite of that.

 

[YmirGF]

Though I should be better than to stereotype people and I want to express that I usually try to avoid it these days as sometimes it can be inaccurate and insensitive.... I'll join in for the sake of fun...

I feel that some straight men out there, not necessarily any on RF, are kind of like a walking stereotype of blandness. Though, I think that number is more like "under 50%".

Then there are some gay men who are their own stereotype. Kind of men that all look like this:

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And tell you that they're going to recite you poetry, post 5 words they come up with, and ask the person, "So when you coming over?'

I actually know of some stereotypes that work for women too, but they are more complex. Nothing I could sum up in less than several paragraphs.

Speaking of stereotype, a guy I like to listen to is Brad Polumbo and the drawing above is almost a dead ringer. Check him out.

Life imitating art?

 

[lewisnotmiller]

When I made the post about some men being bland, I envisioned a very specific caricature of a man wearing a business suit and acting extremely civilized, but then if they saw a spider, they'd freak out and ask a woman to smash it.

Myself saying this says something about me too, though - it's that people in fancy business suits sometimes make me feel uncomfortable. I guess it traces back to my teenage days where I hung out with some of the kind of people you'd find on Myspace, whereas blue collar business people seem quite opposite of that.

I try to steer clear of the business suit thing these days, but I still need to wear one a decent amount...still sounds like me.
Apart from the spider thing. That's...no...I'm more old school than that.