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Shakespeare too sexual for Florida’s schools?

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
Okay sorry for weird title, but this story has confused the hell out of me since I heard about it.

Apparently schools, in order to comply with the “don’t say gay bill” (?) DeSantis has enacted for schools, many schools are now heavily editing what parts of Shakespeare is being taught. Only allowing certain sections of his plays to be read for class, due to how bawdy they often are (which they absolutely are.) Which seems beyond dumb to me, but maybe that’s because my uncle (an English teacher) heavily drove it into my head to laud Shakes lol

I’m not American so I can’t make heads nor tails of this one guys. It just seems so….bizarre to me.
Help me out here, guys.


 

Orbit

I'm a planet
Okay sorry for weird title, but this story has confused the hell out of me since I heard about it.

Apparently schools, in order to comply with the “don’t say gay bill” (?) DeSantis has enacted for schools, many schools are now heavily editing what parts of Shakespeare is being taught. Only allowing certain sections of his plays to be read for class, due to how bawdy they often are (which they absolutely are.) Which seems beyond dumb to me, but maybe that’s because my uncle (an English teacher) heavily drove it into my head to laud Shakes lol

I’m not American so I can’t make heads nor tails of this one guys. It just seems so….bizarre to me.
Help me out here, guys.



It's the Neo-Puritans aka the American Taliban enforcing "decency". By this logic the Bible should be banned from school libraries because it contains the Song of Solomon.
 

rosends

Well-Known Member
Shakespeare ranges from the clean to the smarmy to the downright filthy. I can understand concern, but there are plays which are substantially less problematic than others. Choose one of those and teach the whole play.
 

Viker

Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
Okay sorry for weird title, but this story has confused the hell out of me since I heard about it.

Apparently schools, in order to comply with the “don’t say gay bill” (?) DeSantis has enacted for schools, many schools are now heavily editing what parts of Shakespeare is being taught. Only allowing certain sections of his plays to be read for class, due to how bawdy they often are (which they absolutely are.) Which seems beyond dumb to me, but maybe that’s because my uncle (an English teacher) heavily drove it into my head to laud Shakes lol

I’m not American so I can’t make heads nor tails of this one guys. It just seems so….bizarre to me.
Help me out here, guys.


I wish conservatives would pay attention.

Liberal cancel culture is an annoying pain in the butt. But, current conservative culture of erasure is becoming a authoritarian nightmare set in law.

I've said it before, I will say it again. Woke these days does sort of suck sometimes but anti-woke is worse.
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
My state has also enacted rot-headed laws interfering with educators and libraries.

What's really fantastic about this is that the state department of education has declined to provide any real guidance on what should and shouldn't be pulled from collections. Given how hostile the government has been to education lately, this puts districts in a very uncomfortable position. The rot-heads who wrote and approved these laws are ignorant about how educators and libraries actually operate. Pornography has never been in public school collections. More explicit content that wasn't pornography was always carefully curated and reviewed by educators and librarians. These laws were not necessary. All they have accomplished is provided a basis for "conservative" parents to wage war on educators under the pretense of these laws if there is even a whiff of anything in a collection they have a problem with. So the choice our educators have is: (1) uphold free access to books and information, as is the American way, regardless of the threat of discipline termination, or lawsuit, or (2) remove a bunch of stuff from collections that really shouldn't be because of a few rot-headed idiots not realizing their laws in effect result in state sanctioned censorship.

It's worth noting that the law approved in my state specifically carved out an exception for "religious texts." And we all know by "religious texts" they don't mean the sorts of things that I, as a Druid, would point to and call a religious text. They mean the Bible. These laws are created to pander to authoritative Christians who want to impose their way of life on the masses... instead of just monitoring the books their kids bring home themselves. Parental choice by depriving other parents of theirs. That's how they roll.
 

Callisto

Hellenismos, BTW
Okay sorry for weird title, but this story has confused the hell out of me since I heard about it.

Apparently schools, in order to comply with the “don’t say gay bill” (?) DeSantis has enacted for schools, many schools are now heavily editing what parts of Shakespeare is being taught. Only allowing certain sections of his plays to be read for class, due to how bawdy they often are (which they absolutely are.) Which seems beyond dumb to me, but maybe that’s because my uncle (an English teacher) heavily drove it into my head to laud Shakes lol

I’m not American so I can’t make heads nor tails of this one guys. It just seems so….bizarre to me.
Help me out here, guys.


Florida is handily making a name for itself as the place whole brains go to die. Shakespeare wrote nearly 40 plays, I've yet to hear of any school other than perhaps college-level theatre schools even covering so much as a handful, at best. This is just another non-issue these defects hope to make something out of.
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
Shakespeare ranges from the clean to the smarmy to the downright filthy. I can understand concern, but there are plays which are substantially less problematic than others. Choose one of those and teach the whole play.
I still don't understand how the words will cause harm. We are talking about high students. If they are capable of reading Shakespeare I think they can handle it.

I think the danger of not reading great literature is infinitely greater than the danger of reading it.
 

Jayhawker Soule

-- untitled --
Premium Member
Shakespeare ranges from the clean to the smarmy to the downright filthy. I can understand concern, but there are plays which are substantially less problematic than others. Choose one of those and teach the whole play.
Why ... because we don't want our youth marred by exposure to the sexual deviancy on display in Romeo and Juliet? Far better that we bow to a noxious homophobe.
 
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