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So tell me...how do you know what good is? Do you not base it on the results of others doing favourable works?
There are at least two elelments at work here, first is whether the person isn't a sociopath or have some antisocial conditioning, and what the person has learned in their life expriences. To some Christians they have learned that it's good to indoctrinate children into their religious beliefs. I find that immoral.
How is doing good works (or bad works) relevant to the concepts of religions? The core concepts aren't fact-based. Feel free to show me wrong.
We can also study why Christians, and other theists, act criminally and immorally. It's not as if we see a remarkable pattern of good and moral behavior among theists.
The fact of certain behaviors has nothing to do with non-factual religious concepts.
I could believe the vertical movement would be caused by convection. However, if the theory would be true, the whole world would level up and mountains would not rise, because of the weight would we distributed equally, as in the example of concrete slump test.The force has been documented beyond any reasonable doubt. The source of the energy for continental drift is the directly observed heat convection currents in the interior of the earth.
The movement of these tectonic plates is likely caused by convection currents in the molten rock in Earth's mantle below the crust. Earthquakes and volcanoes are the short-term results of this tectonic movement. The long-term result of plate tectonics is the movement of entire continents over millions of years
How are claims that have no substantial support any evidence?
Good point, volcanic production is exception. However, it doesn't explain orogenic mountains.
What observation do you mean?
What is the observable and verifiable evidence for millions of years?
The problem is that you see it as local small event, not a massive global event. The modern continents and orogenic mountains are the catastrophic flood debris from the great flood.
You know, the sort of stuff you would have covered if you had read a book or taken a class on this stuff. Stuff like this:
are you suggesting that a Christian teaching biblical morals is immoral and that an atheist teaching according to social conditioning is moral? How do you determine what is antisocial? Are you going to claim that we can evolve morality?
So you can't say any observation by your own words?You know, the sort of stuff you would have covered if you had read a book or taken a class on this stuff. Stuff like this:
Social conditioning is what we call it when one's morals come from a book or a pulpit. Believers place the interests of fetuses over those of their host because they are conditioned to. Promoting the maximum number of births possible is immoral in a world suffering from overpopulation. The church would criminalize contraception if it had the power.
That's a myth believers tell themselves. They're all about killing. Guns and Bibles is a cliche. The god of Abraham is genocidal. It hardened Pharoah's heart and then killed the Egyptian's first born then drowned Egyptians in the Red Sea. It allegedly attempted to nearly sterilize the earth.
It's kind of pointless trying to teach science to a creationist. He gave you a resource to investigate. Can we assume that you didn't read it? It was only a few paragraphs long, but you have no interest in what it says, so why should he do more than provide a link. I wouldn't have done even that unless I thought some curious people would look at it, because what would be the point?
What makes Christianity moral? When I see Christian extremists exhibit behavior contrary to what Jesus taught they are anti-Christs. Look at condemning gays and trans kids. That's what Jesus would do? Look at teaching false dogma like creationism. This is immoral.
There is no such thing.
Experts in social behavior define this as
Only in the sense that social norms and conduct does evolve and devolve. Look at how Christians in the 17th century tortured and executed about 30,000 people for witchcraft (that would be about 500.000 today adjusted for population growth) until society had had enough. Look at the Baptists of the Confederate south refuse to recognize black people as 100% humans and deserving of human rights, and then went to war to defend it. Look at how Catholics and Lutherans committed the Holocaust, and the world came together to defeat Nazi Germany and its immoral Christian citizens who supported Hitler. Look at Christian nationalists today who are anti-Semitic and growing with the rise of Trump and MAGA. Look at republicans in red states create racist congressional mas that courts rule are illegal. Let's hope that Trump and MAGA are defeated in November because hos ideas are cruel, inhumane, and immoral.
You mean like rounding up Jews? Or like rounding up people from south of the USA border and putting them in cages, and deporting them in defiance of current laws?
What China has done to mitigate overpopulation is their business. They recognized a serious moral dilemma if their population grew to unsustainable levels. That could mean inflation and many unable to afford food.Point an example...China restricting families to just one child and preventing any others born to said family above that number....they did this for decades!
- The “one-child policy” is a name given to Chinese government laws for controlling population growth. According to estimates, it prevented about 400 million births in the country.
- Introduced in 1979 and discontinued in 2015, the policy was enforced through a mix of incentives and sanctions.
- At times, the government employed more draconian measures, including forced abortions and sterilization.1
What Was China's One-Child Policy? Its Implications and Importance
The one-child policy was implemented by the Chinese government as a method of controlling the population.www.investopedia.com
What does this mean? That you can justify owning slaves because it's biblical? Because you can justify killing people for witchcraft since it's biblical? In the end we humans are accountable for our own actions. The Confederates decided they were moral and just in owning black people, do you agree with their biblical decision? Do you agree that if Christians reading the Bible decide to execute people for being witches they are moral and justified? Where in the Bible does it say not to trust science? Or are you trusting Christian extremists who have decided that science goes against their interpretations, as if they are perfect and beyond error?
It's not about authority. It's about honesty, clarity, and logical reasoning.
Yes it does. The orogenic mountains are still forming slowly by the same processes, and we cans see the incremental slow process of mountain mountain forming lifting up folding and faulting sedimentary rock formations over time with many ocean and coastal formations like limestone contain many fossils especially corals and shellfish formed in shallow sea, The interior of these mountains contain the same fossil rich formations extending deep into the earth under the mountains. Limestones can only form over millions of years by formation of carbonate minerals.
Your procrustean campaign to impose your understanding of atheism onto others has nothing to do with honesty, clarity, or logic.
I like your description of a procrustean campaign!!!
Calling your belief that theism is an invalid proposition "unbelief" is clearly a deliberate deceit intended to help you avoid the uncomfortable fact that you have no logical way of justifying your belief via reasoning or evidential proof. It's why you lot had to invent meaningless words like "unbelief" in the first place. And why you have to keep insisting that the term "atheism" means nothing. But you aren't fooling anyone but yourselves. And the more you have to sink to such dishonest tactics to maintain your anti-religious bias the more anyone with eyes can see that it IS just a bias.
