Shooting at Texas High School

[oldbadger]

Some people are messed up, I acknowledge that. My point is that it is not a generational issue. As much as baby boomers love to pat themselves on the back based on their best examples while taking a crap on an entire generation (that they raised) based on the worst examples, it simply isn't accurate.

Hear Hear!
Oblique question................. have you ever, anywhere else, ever heard of a 'T.H.'? If not, please don't worry, I'm old and daft.

 

[Quetzal]

So aren't there those that paint all firearm owners in basically the same way. So they are trying to paint an entire group of people based on the acts of a few. Shame on them.

I agree!

 

[Revoltingest]

"Spin"? I presume you're talking about @Father Heathen's and my posts to the effect that mass shootings seem to be a daily or near daily occurrence now. If so, your choice of "spin" to describe them seems gratuitous and self-serving for it would seem to imply that the points made in those posts was in some sense out of line or unreasonable.

Yet, what could be more reasonable than to think of all mass shootings as falling into a single general category? The general category of "Mass Shootings"? Why would anyone think of them otherwise? "Oh, the eight murdered in Texas today are worth thinking about because they were a school shooting, but the 59 murdered in Las Vegas last fall are not worth thinking about because they were not a school shooting." That would make as little sense as your use of the word "spin" to describe Father Heathen's and my posts.

Of course your spin is never spin.
Let's just agree that we each have different takes on what FH posted.

 

[Revoltingest]

"We have a lot of school shootings, but that's okay because occasionally they're foiled."

I was alerted to this as quoted.
Whew!

 

[Revoltingest]

We should be ignoring mass shootings which don't happen in schools, folks.

You think so?
That's awful!

 

[Sunstone]

Of course your spin is never spin.

That's a dodge. You are avoiding addressing the argument I laid out for you. But maybe that's a good thing. You'd probably distort it anyway.

 

[Revoltingest]

That's a dodge. You are avoiding addressing the argument I laid out for you. But maybe that's a good thing. You'd probably distort it anyway.

You're merely bickering over your preferred inference.
I see no point in furthering that.
We've no disagreement about the numbers of gun deaths, nor
about the need to greatly reduce them. That's what matters.
The how of accomplishing it is where the real debate should be.

 

[BSM1]

It's not "emotionalism" but rather an objective observation. What bothers me are those who get more emotional over their John Rambo cosplay props than they do over a growing pile of murdered children.

Well, you just did it again. If nothing else you are consistent.

 

[Revoltingest]

Well, you just did it again. If nothing else you are consistent.

Any thoughts on what the cost would be for all schools to provide mental
health services which could help all troubled kids? It would be a lot, but I
can't think of a better use for all the taxpayer money we'd save by ending
foreign adventurism. Aside from curbing school & other shootings, the
benefit to kids would be even greater.

 

[BSM1]

Any thoughts on what the cost would be for all schools to provide mental
health services which could help all troubled kids? It would be a lot, but I
can't think of a better use for all the taxpayer money we'd save by ending
foreign adventurism. Aside from curbing school & other shootings, the
benefit to kids would be even greater.

I have always been a proponent of revisiting our foreign aid programs. I believe a good deal of this money doesn't do what it was intended to do and could be better used for home grown projects such as this.

 

[Revoltingest]

I have always been a proponent of revisiting our foreign aid programs. I believe a good deal of this money doesn't do what it was intended to do and could be better used for home grown projects such as this.

It seems so obvious, but to so few.

 

[oldbadger]

You think so?
That's awful!

What's awful is that (more or less) your wonderful President, in an address to the NRA, mentioned the recent surge in killings on our London streets, describing our London hospitals as war-zones, as a reason for not doing anything about guns in America.

Strangely, some RF members have mentioned in other threads, the fact that shootings in London have almost equaled those in New York for the first months of this year, making facetious comments about what we should be banning next.

Gun nuts in America have no intention of doing anything about it...... it'll just go on and on.........

 

[Revoltingest]

Gun nuts in America have no intention of doing anything about it...... it'll just go on and on.........

Anti-gun nuts are equally useless.

 

[columbus]

The attorney general of Texas has an answer. Put fewer doors in schools.

“We may have to look at the design of our schools moving forward and retrofitting schools that are already built. There are too many entrances and too many exits”, Dan Patrick said during a press conference after a gunman killed at least 10 people at a high school in Santa Fe, Texas.

That's just brilliant Mr Republican!
Tom
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...dan-patrick-lieutenant-governor-a8358691.html

 

[oldbadger]

The attorney general of Texas has an answer. Put fewer doors in schools.

That's just brilliant Mr Republican!
Tom

I think he's right, though.

Full perimeter security should only have one access point for all. Other exit doors should be designed for egress only. Loss prevention in open retail premises gives some hints for this, in that all emergency exit doors from open air sales areas can be opened only in the event of a fire alarm activation OR using break glass spring bolts which cannot be accessed from outside.

I like the idea of full perimeter security with main-entrance access control and a security presence. Costly but worth it, and it can be paid for with tax dollars. Better than a Mexico Wall, anyway.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

The attorney general of Texas has an answer. Put fewer doors in schools.


That's just brilliant Mr Republican!
Tom
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...dan-patrick-lieutenant-governor-a8358691.html

Google "enfilade" some time just to see how bad his idea is.