Should a convicted felon be allowed to remain in the presidential ballot? Why or why not?
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Should a Convicted Felon Be Allowed to Remain on the Presidential Ballot?
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Pogo
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Yes because no law says they can't. It actually protects against claims of lawfare.
Twilight Hue
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I figure that would require a historical template to answer such a question.
Trump wouldn't be the first, won't be the last.
My own take is non violent felons can arguably be allowed to run for political office.
Strange that distinction would put Trump alongside domestic felons like the late Lyndon LaRouche who ran for office.
It's still legal and it's a yes.
Should such laws exist? Why or why not?
Pogo
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No because then someone could Trump up charges and what would happen if a law against moral turpitude was passed.
☆Dreamwind☆
Active Member
No they shouldn't.
Yes, much as I feel that many felons who are felons primarily because of disparities within the justice system should be allowed to do so.
Wandering Monk
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A president can be impeached for 'high crimes and misdemeanors.' One would think that a felon would be ineligible.
Yes, because I think its wrong to shut out citizens from the political process, and there's a lot of injustice and bias in the "justice" department. I also think it's wrong that a person is a felon for the rest of their life, even after they've finished their sentence.
Subduction Zone
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Sadly yes. A convicted felon, and not a total unknown, ran for President from prison. To ban him you would need to change the Constitution.
Subduction Zone
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This is actually what bothers me the most about this entire thing.
Sure, the stuff it was actually convicted of is bad. But let's be real here - that's got nothing on some of the other things it has done that are vastly more serious for the fate and future of this entire nation. That Congress failed to impeach it from office and actually carry that out in full is probably one of the greatest failures of this country's national government in history.
Even now, the former in-cheif narcissist is swindling the American people asking for donations to its campaign. Con artists gonna con artist. And humans gonna human and utterly fall for it. It's unbelievable to me, but here we are.
Wandering Monk
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That's the thing. It's like there are no other Republicans that Republicans will nominate to challenge Trump. Are they ALL cowed?
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What gets me is that Trump still attracts more ambitious people to him, and all the while Trump has left a trail of broken people with ruined lives. Jena Ellis lost her law license. Rudy Guliani is over $100 million in debt. Bill Barr's reputation is ruined. Jeff Sessions can't get a job. Nikki Haley just blew any future for herself by being a hypocrite. Sydney powell. Eastman. All the other people involved with the fake elector scheme, indicted in multiple states. Kari Lake is an ongoing joke. Yet people still want to be in his orbit. Absurd. Dangerous.
Nikki Haley played the game, that she pretended was a legitimate alternative to MAGA. Then she said she's voting for Trump. What future does she have now? MAGAs hate her, and she just stabbed all of her supporters in the back. The lesson: you can mount a legitimate campaign against Trump, but it has to be real.
Subduction Zone
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Unfortunately yes, they are all terribly afraid of the MAGAt's.
Banach-Tarski Paradox
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Nov. 2, 1920: Imprisoned Eugene V. Debs Received One Million Votes for U.S. President
Eugene V. Debs received one million votes in the U.S. presidential election while in prison on the Socialist Party ticket.
Wandering Monk
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Suppose Liz Cheney or Adam Kinzinger got in the race. You would think they could pull some Republicans away from Mango Mussolini.
Subduction Zone
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Better than my example of Lyndon LaRouche who only got 26,334 votes. And a far more honorable man too. LaRouche is much more similar to Trump.Nov. 2, 1920: Imprisoned Eugene V. Debs Received One Million Votes for U.S. President
Eugene V. Debs received one million votes in the U.S. presidential election while in prison on the Socialist Party ticket.www.zinnedproject.org