Should adultery and psychological abuse be punishable in a court of law?

[anonymous9887]

This discussion I have had with a few people before, but i wanted to get into greater depth.

Things to consider:
1. people kill because of adultery in the heat of the moment.
2. Adultery affects the whole family unit.
3. Psychological abuse can lead others to violent behavior towards the abusers.

Question I have:
Why should the victim of the 1st offense receive punishment for their actions but the 1st offender receive no consequence as far as the law is concerned.

If you decide that the behaviors should be punished, how do we go about doing that?
If you believe that they should not be punished, why do you hold that position?

 

[Aštra’el]

"Should" is a word that has no meaning for me in this. I would say I would rather not see adultery or psychological abuse punished by law. It is my opinion that people should practice more fortitude, willpower, resilience, psychological endurance, and control over their emotions in their affairs and relationships.

 

[Revoltingest]

To the titular question.....
No.

 

[Koldo]

This discussion I have had with a few people before, but i wanted to get into greater depth.

Things to consider:
1. people kill because of adultery in the heat of the moment.
2. Adultery affects the whole family unit.
3. Psychological abuse can lead others to violent behavior towards the abusers.

Question I have:
Why should the victim of the 1st offense receive punishment for their actions but the 1st offender receive no consequence as far as the law is concerned.

If you decide that the behaviors should be punished, how do we go about doing that?
If you believe that they should not be punished, why do you hold that position?

What punishment would you suggest for adultery ?

 

[anonymous9887]

"Should" is a word that has no meaning for me in this. I would say I would rather not see adultery or psychological abuse punished by law. It is my opinion that people should practice more fortitude, willpower, resilience, psychological endurance, and control over their emotions in their affairs and relationships.

But what about for people that have not learned how to use their mind more, or have had the right stimuli around them to think critically, because obviously majority don't think critically.


So even if they have the will power, etc, you are saying that the ones committing these things should go unpunished?

Think about what an adulteress is doing to their family. Are the kids and husband affected on this matter?

 

[anonymous9887]

What punishment would you suggest for adultery ?

3 years in prison

you can do time and half and 1 year 1/2 on probation

 

[anonymous9887]

To the titular question.....
No.

Why not?

If you have a wife that cheats on you periodically and you have 3 kids and its breaking your family apart, you mean to tell me you wouldnt want them to serve time?

you have to admit that your children will be affected for the spouses selfish behavior

 

[Aštra’el]

I am not saying that people "should" or "should not" be punished by the Law for adultery or psychological abuse. I am saying that I personally would rather not see these these things listed as "criminal offenses".

 

[Nietzsche]

Psychological abuse, yes. Adultery, no. The government has no place legislating what happens between two consenting adults.

 

[Politesse]

The last thing we need in my country are more imprisonments for petty crimes. I am no fan of adultery, but I do think it is a private matter that a government could not solve without causing worse trauma than the crime itself (children may be hurt by fighting parents, but parents in jail are also bad for them). It should be taken into account in a divorce or annullment proceeding, and I'm pretty sure it already is in most places.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Psychological abuse and neglect can be punishable (especially if children are involved.
Adultery, this is something only a dictator would criminalize.

 

[Twilight Hue]

What punishment would you suggest for adultery ?

His and her
Medieval stocks in public with a scarlet letter A painted on the forehead with a basket full of rancid tomatos for pelting.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Officially for OP is a resounding NO!!!

 

[Revoltingest]

Why not?

If you have a wife that cheats on you periodically and you have 3 kids and its breaking your family apart, you mean to tell me you wouldnt want them to serve time?

Sending her to prison wouldn't help anyone.

you have to admit that your children will be affected for the spouses selfish behavior

We are all adversely affected by the behavior of others at times.
But to criminalize it is a weighty thing.
It shouldn't be done for interpersonal relationships.

 

[Aštra’el]

I think it's likely that most of those who wish to see "psychological abuse" outlawed are those who do not excel at handling it themselves. These people would do well to practice greater control of their emotions, to strengthen their fortitude and resilience in their affairs and relationships, and to understand how many observed and experienced things are a matter of perception.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I think it's likely that most of those who wish to see "psychological abuse" outlawed are those who do not excel at handling it themselves.

Apparently, you have never seen a child torn down by a parent who constantly talks down to them. Such a thing often manifests as various issues well into adulthood.
And, let's be honest, any "parent" who calls their child stupid deserves nothing less a shovel firmly smacked on their face. A parent should nurture, not destroy.

 

[Jainarayan]

3 years in prison

you can do time and half and 1 year 1/2 on probation

Sixty percent of the US population would be in prison.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

Psychological abuse is recognised as abuse and can be punished in law.
Adultery is rather different and can have many reasons, some of which would not be classed as abuse.

 

[Aštra’el]

@Shadow Wolf

-What one perceives as "psychological abuse", another may perceive and welcome as constructive criticism.

-What one perceives as "psychological abuse", another might perceive and welcome as some form of sexual fetish.

-What one perceives as "psychological abuse", another might perceive and welcome as deserved consequences of one's actions.

-What one perceives as "psychological abuse", another might perceive and welcome as a rigorous training regimen.

-What one perceives as "psychological abuse", another might perceive and welcome as behavior essential for survival or success.

-What one perceives as "psychological abuse", another might perceive and welcome as tough love.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

@Shadow Wolf

-What one perceives as "psychological abuse", another may perceive and welcome as constructive criticism.

-What one perceives as "psychological abuse", another might perceive and welcome as some form of sexual fetish.

-What one perceives as "psychological abuse", another might perceive and welcome as deserved consequences of one's actions.

-What one perceives as "psychological abuse", another might perceive and welcome as a rigorous training regimen.

-What one perceives as "psychological abuse", another might perceive and welcome as behavior essential for survival or success.

-What one perceives as "psychological abuse", another might perceive and welcome as tough love.

Psychological abuse isn't constructive criticism, or a sensual sexual act, deserved, essential, or love. Instead of beating someone with physical objects, you beat them with words, manipulations, emotional distancedness and coldness, and other way to psychologically tear someone down. It's one of the things that makes torture psychologically destructive, is because victims are psychologically abused.