Should adultery and psychological abuse be punishable in a court of law?

[anonymous9887]

Psychological abuse, yes. Adultery, no. The government has no place legislating what happens between two consenting adults.

How about on the grounds that they both agreed to a contract between 2 parties and made a legal vow to be faithful to the other person. If you do not want to be married get a divorce, why be dishonest to the other person. The point is you are making a commitment and if you fail that commitment which causes much harm to a family unit, you deserve to be put in jail along with the other participant.

 

[anonymous9887]

The last thing we need in my country are more imprisonments for petty crimes. I am no fan of adultery, but I do think it is a private matter that a government could not solve without causing worse trauma than the crime itself (children may be hurt by fighting parents, but parents in jail are also bad for them). It should be taken into account in a divorce or annullment proceeding, and I'm pretty sure it already is in most places.

well if the parent already cannot restrain herself from something that is a selfish decision, I see the person paying for the crime as the same.
1. in one case the accused is enjoying their deception and the family unit is affected
2. In the other scenario the accused is in Jail and at the very least is paying for their crime.

 

[anonymous9887]

Psychological abuse and neglect can be punishable (especially if children are involved.
Adultery, this is something only a dictator would criminalize.

Why is Adultery something only a dictator would criminalize.
2 consenting adults basically made a contract to one another, so if one fails the contract he should be penalized, otherwise why even sign a contract.
Marriage has become a joke.

 

[anonymous9887]

Sending her to prison wouldn't help anyone.

We are all adversely affected by the behavior of others at times.
But to criminalize it is a weighty thing.
It shouldn't be done for interpersonal relationships.

So if your wife cheated on you, and is using your funds to be with another person, and is neglecting your children, and you see the adverse affects on your family you would not like to see justice?

no matter how you look at it:
1. divorce affects the children (most of the time women get full custody)
2. Forgiveness sometime will not do you well
3. Jail time, you will have the same affects but you will at least see Justice, maybe the person may feel repentant

 

[anonymous9887]

Sixty percent of the US population would be in prison.

So you dont think that if they started cracking down on that heavily we would see drastic changes in the country?

 

[anonymous9887]

Psychological abuse is recognised as abuse and can be punished in law.
Adultery is rather different and can have many reasons, some of which would not be classed as abuse.

I see it as a contract that you are making with another consenting adult. If you break the contract you should go to Jail. if not then dont get married.

 

[anonymous9887]

@Shadow Wolf

-What one perceives as "psychological abuse", another may perceive and welcome as constructive criticism.

-What one perceives as "psychological abuse", another might perceive and welcome as some form of sexual fetish.

-What one perceives as "psychological abuse", another might perceive and welcome as deserved consequences of one's actions.

-What one perceives as "psychological abuse", another might perceive and welcome as a rigorous training regimen.

-What one perceives as "psychological abuse", another might perceive and welcome as behavior essential for survival or success.

-What one perceives as "psychological abuse", another might perceive and welcome as tough love.

Just because people may perceive something in one way, does not change the criminals intentions. If motive is proved then he should go to Jail.

 

[McBell]

How about on the grounds that they both agreed to a contract between 2 parties and made a legal vow to be faithful to the other person. If you do not want to be married get a divorce, why be dishonest to the other person. The point is you are making a commitment and if you fail that commitment which causes much harm to a family unit, you deserve to be put in jail along with the other participant.

upon what precedent do you base this on?

 

[McBell]

well if the parent already cannot restrain herself from something that is a selfish decision, I see the person paying for the crime as the same.
1. in one case the accused is enjoying their deception and the family unit is affected
2. In the other scenario the accused is in Jail and at the very least is paying for their crime.

Adultery is not a crime.
It is a breach of contract.

 

[McBell]

Why is Adultery something only a dictator would criminalize.
2 consenting adults basically made a contract to one another, so if one fails the contract he should be penalized, otherwise why even sign a contract.
Marriage has become a joke.

You do not know much about divorce, do you?

 

[McBell]

So if your wife cheated on you, and is using your funds to be with another person, and is neglecting your children, and you see the adverse affects on your family you would not like to see justice?

no matter how you look at it:
1. divorce affects the children (most of the time women get full custody)
2. Forgiveness sometime will not do you well
3. Jail time, you will have the same affects but you will at least see Justice, maybe the person may feel repentant

Adultery is not a jailing offense.
It is a civil matter, not a criminal matter.

 

[McBell]

I see it as a contract that you are making with another consenting adult. If you break the contract you should go to Jail. if not then dont get married.

Do you think all breach of contracts should get jail time?

 

[Nietzsche]

How about on the grounds that they both agreed to a contract between 2 parties and made a legal vow to be faithful to the other person. If you do not want to be married get a divorce, why be dishonest to the other person. The point is you are making a commitment and if you fail that commitment which causes much harm to a family unit, you deserve to be put in jail along with the other participant.

What does this do, other than further crowd prisons for people who commit crimes that really aren't crimes?

 

[Kemosloby]

If your being abused by psychologists yes. Adultry laws no, they would go over about as well as prohibition. Then you'd have to pay for an Adultry license.

 

[Skwim]

Adultery is not a jailing offense.

It is a civil matter, not a criminal matter.

Sorry, but it is.

Section 255.17 of the New York state penal law states, “A person is guilty of adultery when he engages in sexual intercourse with another person at a time when he has a living spouse, or the other person has a living spouse. Adultery is a class B misdemeanor.” A class B misdemeanor is punishable by up to 90 days in jail or a $500 fine.
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And, there are four other states where adultery is a crime

Alabama
Illinois
Minnesota
Michigan
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[Shadow Wolf]

Why is Adultery something only a dictator would criminalize.

Because it's not a serious enough offense. Some don't even consider it an offense. And, if someone does cheat one their significant other, why should they be legally punished for most likely having broken lines of communication or a relation that is failing anyways?

So you dont think that if they started cracking down on that heavily we would see drastic changes in the country?

It doesn't seem to work that way. Taxes don't really decrease behavior, nor does crime. Rather, it tends to make the wrong people rich.

 

[anonymous9887]

Do you think all breach of contracts should get jail time?

well then what is your position?

Are you ok with your spouse committing these acts and causing problems to the family unit.
You would not want Justice?

 

[McBell]

Sorry, but it is.

Section 255.17 of the New York state penal law states, “A person is guilty of adultery when he engages in sexual intercourse with another person at a time when he has a living spouse, or the other person has a living spouse. Adultery is a class B misdemeanor.” A class B misdemeanor is punishable by up to 90 days in jail or a $500 fine.
source
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And, there are four other states where adultery is a crime

Alabama
Illinois
Minnesota
Michigan
source


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Please be so kind as to list the last time anyone in the USA was jailed for adultery.

Take your time.
I'll wait.

And for your entertainment, A list of other laws no longer enforced:

http://www.dumblaws.com/​

 

[McBell]

well then what is your position?

Are you ok with your spouse committing these acts and causing problems to the family unit.
You would not want Justice?

You do understand that "jail time" is not the only form of justice, right?

I have said for years that they should make marriage licenses $20,000.
That would drop the divorce rate significantly.

 

[anonymous9887]

Here is the real question for all you commentators

On what side are you, have you been the offender or the victim or have you never experienced it?

Maybe we can see why you give the answer you give.

if you have been the victim then you understand
If you are the offender you seek to minimize your actions
If you have never experienced either, you have no actual experience on the matter and can only assume by what you have seen. Huge difference between experiencing and seeing others.