Should adultery and psychological abuse be punishable in a court of law?

[anonymous9887]

You do understand that "jail time" is not the only form of justice, right?

I have said for years that they should make marriage licenses $20,000.
That would drop the divorce rate significantly.

How about 5,000 and a breach of contract (to who ever is proved to be at fault) should be a 30,000 to the victim. Or be responsible for the others financial welfare for a time.

 

[anonymous9887]

You do understand that "jail time" is not the only form of justice, right?

I have said for years that they should make marriage licenses $20,000.
That would drop the divorce rate significantly.

that is a good idea.

 

[McBell]

Here is the real question for all you commentators

On what side are you, have you been the offender or the victim or have you never experienced it?

Maybe we can see why you give the answer you give.

if you have been the victim then you understand
If you are the offender you seek to minimize your actions
If you have never experienced either, you have no actual experience on the matter and can only assume by what you have seen. Huge difference between experiencing and seeing others.

It is not that I do not understand, it is that I flat out disagree with jail time for adultery.

If you think this nonsense gives weight to your "argument" you are sadly mistaken.
It is nothing more than an appeal to emotion.

 

[McBell]

How about 5,000 and a breach of contract (to who ever is proved to be at fault) should be a 30,000 to the victim. Or be responsible for the others financial welfare for a time.

Except you will be setting a precedent for all breaches of contracts that will bite you in the *** later.

 

[anonymous9887]

Should an adulteress get away Scott free or should they have some consequences
1. A fine
2. Financial compensation
3. Should your drivers license be revoked. lol

What punishments if any should be enforced on these unfaithful spouses?

 

[McBell]

Should an adulteress get away Scott free or should they have some consequences
1. A fine
2. Financial compensation
3. Should your drivers license be revoked. lol

What punishments if any should be enforced on these unfaithful spouses?

how about a divorce that favours the one cheated on?

 

[anonymous9887]

Except you will be setting a precedent for all breaches of contracts that will bite you in the *** later.

well thats why its important for people to know what they are signing up for?
Now a days people do not even question anything and sometimes you think that they kind of might deserve it for not being cautious.

 

[anonymous9887]

how about a divorce that favours the one cheated on?

what do you mean? how?

 

[anonymous9887]

It is not that I do not understand, it is that I flat out disagree with jail time for adultery.

If you think this nonsense gives weight to your "argument" you are sadly mistaken.
It is nothing more than an appeal to emotion.

When and if you go through it, you can come and let me know what you think afterwards. there are some shady people out there, and im sure you wont enjoy it.

 

[McBell]

well thats why its important for people to know what they are signing up for?
Now a days people do not even question anything and sometimes you think that they kind of might deserve it for not being cautious.

Seems to me you are not very familiar with what all is contracted...
Leases, utility bills, car loans, house loans, etc...

You really want to set it up where each breach of contract you have to pay $30,000?

 

[McBell]

When and if you go through it, you can come and let me know what you think afterwards. there are some shady people out there, and im sure you wont enjoy it.

I think it sucks.
But it does not deserve jail time.

If the best "argument" you have is "unless you have gone through it" then you have nothing.

 

[Aštra’el]

Instead of beating someone with physical objects, you beat them with words, manipulations, emotional distancedness and coldness, and other way to psychologically tear someone down.

In case you are unaware, this what military training is often like. Sometimes you have psychologically tear a person down to create something stronger.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

In case you are unaware, this what military training is often like. Sometimes you have psychologically tear a person down to form something stronger.

We aren't discussing military training.

 

[Aštra’el]

We aren't discussing military training.

Well I am, among many other things.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Well I am, among many other things.

Even military training wouldn't be abuse, not unless instructors are being unfairly and cruelly harsh. You'll probably argue against this, but psychological abuse isn't yelling or pushing people, it is to completely tear them down and develop, at the bare minimum, feelings of self-doubt and depreciation. If a military training facility is doing that, they will produce nothing but weak and broken soldiers.

 

[Aštra’el]

Even military training wouldn't be abuse, not unless instructors are being unfairly and cruelly harsh. You'll probably argue against this, but psychological abuse isn't yelling or pushing people, it is to completely tear them down and develop, at the bare minimum, feelings of self-doubt and depreciation. If a military training facility is doing that, they will produce nothing but weak and broken soldiers.

This form of training has proven incredibly effective in various military branches, as well as with certain parents, religious leaders, combat instructors, athletic coaches, art instructors, academic teachers and personal mentors. Obviously there are those who are weak and can not handle it, who will fail and remain broken. I don't pity them.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

This form of training has proven incredibly effective in various military branches, as well as with certain parents, religious leaders, combat instructors, athletic coaches, art instructors, academic teachers and personal mentors. Obviously there are those who are weak and can not handle it, who will fail and remain broken. I don't pity them.

You aren't getting there is a different between training and strengthening and abuse. Even to yourself, you can push yourself too hard to the point it does become abusive, damaging, and destructive.

 

[Revoltingest]

So if your wife cheated on you, and is using your funds to be with another person, and is neglecting your children, and you see the adverse affects on your family you would not like to see justice?

Justice, yes.
I'd want custody & money.
But no criminal sanctions.

no matter how you look at it:
1. divorce affects the children (most of the time women get full custody)
2. Forgiveness sometime will not do you well
3. Jail time, you will have the same affects but you will at least see Justice, maybe the person may feel repentant

Yeah....no jail time.
That wouldn't help her, the kids, or me....although it would make it possible to win custody.

 

[The_Fisher_King]

This discussion I have had with a few people before, but i wanted to get into greater depth.

Things to consider:
1. people kill because of adultery in the heat of the moment.
2. Adultery affects the whole family unit.
3. Psychological abuse can lead others to violent behavior towards the abusers.

Question I have:
Why should the victim of the 1st offense receive punishment for their actions but the 1st offender receive no consequence as far as the law is concerned.

If you decide that the behaviors should be punished, how do we go about doing that?
If you believe that they should not be punished, why do you hold that position?

How are you defining 'adultery' and 'psychological abuse' here?

 

[Skwim]

Please be so kind as to list the last time anyone in the USA was jailed for adultery.

No. It's irrelevant.


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