Should Biden Pardon Trump?

[BSM1]

Charge? Charges. Everything the dems could have brought up in the indictment. And probably the charges they did bring up. He was acquitted by the Senate but the Senate isn't a court so that might not count as double jeopardy.
So, campaign finance, emolument clause, obstruction of justice, fraud, tax fraud, corruption, sexual harassment and probably a long list of other charges he is currently immune to.

So, as of this posting, no charges?

 

[Heyo]

So, as of this posting, no charges?

Never said there are. There will be when he leaves office. That's why he'd prefer not to.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

Shouldn't this be in the 'jokes' section?

Your post or this thread?

 

[BSM1]

Never said there are. There will be when he leaves office. That's why he'd prefer not to.

What charges are pending? And where do your buy your tarot cards?

Your post or this thread?

Your choice...

 

[Revoltingest]

What charges are pending? And where do your buy your tarot cards?




Your choice...

It's fascinating to watch Trump haters frighten themselves
by imagining these extreme scenarios, & treating them as
real. He was to become a dictator like Hitler. He was a
Russian agent, implementing Putin's agenda. And now
he'll refuse to leave the White House after losing re-election.
Even mainstream leftish media push these beliefs. None
have come true, yet each failed prediction is replaced by
a new one.
It reminds me of religions predicting some armageddon.
Faith is never defeated by failure because there's always
another horrible prognostication waiting in the wings.
It's a kind of team building exercise.

 

[Heyo]

What charges are pending? And where do your buy your tarot cards?

Remember the Mueller Report?

 

[Heyo]

It's fascinating to watch Trump haters frighten themselves
by imagining these extreme scenarios, & treating them as
real. He was to become a dictator like Hitler. He was a
Russian agent, implementing Putin's agenda. And now
he'll refuse to leave the White House after losing re-election.
Even mainstream leftish media push these beliefs. None
have come true, yet each failed prediction is replaced by
a new one.
It reminds me of religions predicting some armageddon.
Faith is never defeated by failure because there's always
another horrible prognostication waiting in the wings.
It's a kind of team building exercise.

You don't mean me by "Trump hater", do you? (The impression could arise since @BSM1's answer was in part to me.)

 

[BSM1]

Remember the Mueller Report?

Do you?

 

[tytlyf]

Do you?

I remember Trumps longtime personal attorney saying Trump essentially broke laws. Tax cheat, etc.
That was under oath.

 

[Daemon Sophic]

It's fascinating to watch Trump haters frighten themselves
by imagining these extreme scenarios, & treating them as
real. He was to become a dictator like Hitler. He was a
Russian agent, implementing Putin's agenda. And now
he'll refuse to leave the White House after losing re-election.
Even mainstream leftish media push these beliefs. None
have come true, yet each failed prediction is replaced by
a new one.
It reminds me of religions predicting some armageddon.
Faith is never defeated by failure because there's always
another horrible prognostication waiting in the wings.
It's a kind of team building exercise.

Your right. It’s almost as bad as insults against Obama.

....except there were no statements from Obama saying that he might not step down, or criminal records, or convictions-jail time-and pardons for criminal cronies/sycophants......
....and of course the corporate media ran it 24/7 for years even as Obama pulled our nation back together, rather than sowing division.....

....but yeah. Just like that.

 

[ecco]

...should Biden pardon the criminal Trump like Ford pardoned Nixon for his far lesser crimes...

NO!

In a controversial executive action, President Gerald Ford pardons his disgraced predecessor Richard M. Nixon for any crimes he may have committed or participated in while in office.​

Trump's criminal vulnerability goes far beyond anything he committed as President.

Why would Biden pardon crimes committed by private citizen Donald J. Trump?

 

[BSM1]

I remember Trumps longtime personal attorney saying Trump essentially broke laws. Tax cheat, etc.
That was under oath.

So, as of this posting, no charges?

 

[BSM1]

NO!

In a controversial executive action, President Gerald Ford pardons his disgraced predecessor Richard M. Nixon for any crimes he may have committed or participated in while in office.​

Trump's criminal vulnerability goes far beyond anything he committed as President.

Why would Biden pardon crimes committed by private citizen Donald J. Trump?

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Maybe for the same reason Clinton pardoned Mark Rich....

 

[ecco]

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Maybe for the same reason Clinton pardoned Mark Rich....

So you are in favor of Biden pardoning Trump. That's strange since you posted...

So, as of this posting, no charges?

So, as of this posting, no charges?

So, as of this posting, no charges?

Hmm. Bit of a mental slip-up there?

Perhaps you Googled "is trump being investigated" and saw the pages of current investigations. Prosecutors are preparing for Jan 20, 2021.

 

[Revoltingest]

You don't mean me by "Trump hater", do you? (The impression could arise since @BSM1's answer was in part to me.)

I detect that a great many people see him as not merely
the loyal opposition, but instead hate...loathe...revile him.
This appears to greatly affect their judgement, with imagined
worst-case scenarios becoming real to them.

 

[Revoltingest]

Your right. It’s almost as bad as insults against Obama.

I remember some on the right having such paranoid
thoughts about Obama....Muslim agent...planning to
refuse to leave office....becoming dictator.

But the Trump paranoia is far far greater than it was
for Trump, with even mainstream NPR devoting an
entire segment to Trump becoming Hitler.
As for insults....
Survey posts on RF....Trump has endured far more
& far worse than did Obama. The Donald sure is
inspiring that way.

....except there were no statements from Obama saying that he might not step down, or criminal records, or convictions-jail time-and pardons for criminal cronies/sycophants......
....and of course the corporate media ran it 24/7 for years even as Obama pulled our nation back together, rather than sowing division.....

....but yeah. Just like that.

Obama sowed much division...except in the eyes of his fans.
Delusions are always justifiable....but delusions they remain.

Partisans....they amaze me...always getting so wrapped up
in either loving or hating their leaders. I find it useful to
avoid personal feelings. Love & hate policies. It's easier.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Thinking ahead to the day the Orange Death Cloud clears over Washington and Biden is president. There are already investigations going on into Trump for many crimes, and they have his previously denied tax returns in hand. Assuming, which is likely safe to do, they will find punishable criminal activities, should Biden pardon the criminal Trump like Ford pardoned Nixon for his far lesser crimes, because he just wanted to move ahead and not deal with the past?

Should Biden do that too, when the day of Trump's reckoning arrives shortly after he gets booted from office? Would it be good for America, or bad for a former president to have to serve prison time for crimes committed before he took office? Or should he be allowed to end his days in a federal prison? Will the orange prison suit go better with Trump's face than the red tie?

I've never heard of any former president ever being convicted and sentenced for anything. Its doubtful any pardon will ever be needed because no one is going to place any former president in cuffs.

 

[Revoltingest]

I've never heard of any former president ever being convicted and sentenced for anything. Its doubtful any pardon will ever be needed because no one is going to place any former president in cuffs.

There's always the possibility of a first time.
He inspires lingering animosity in a way that
even Nixon couldn't.

Interesting back story to why he says "Aroooooo!".

 

[Twilight Hue]

There's always the possibility of a first time.
He inspires lingering animosity in a way that
even Nixon couldn't.

Interesting back story to why he says "Aroooooo!".

I think it would be political suicide to be a politician responsible for convicting a former president. The government will never accept such a record id wager.

 

[Heyo]

I detect that a great many people see him as not merely
the loyal opposition, but instead hate...loathe...revile him.
This appears to greatly affect their judgement, with imagined
worst-case scenarios becoming real to them.

Yeah, the Donald has a talent to polarize. And for not being "the loyal opposition", he has often steped near and sometimes over the line of consent what should be allowed and possible in a democratic republic. As long as people agree on the rules the other guy is an opponent, but once you leave the agreement, you're the enemy.