Should Biden take drug tests for the POTUS debates?

[anotherneil]

... and we still haven't seen Obama's birth certificate.

What a MAGA conduit can or cannot argue with is of zero interest to me.

Not relevant to this thread.

 

[anotherneil]

No. Since Trump is a convicted felon, he should and will be getting regular drug tests.

If that's the case, then I think the issue there would only be for illegal drugs; I don't know that this would specifically apply to performance enhancing drugs; since you brought this up, perhaps you could enlighten us about that.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

And generally that's about drugs for enhancing physical performance in sports.

In this case, it's about drugs for enhancing mental performance in politics.

At least in sports the only losses are trophies, medals, a prize payment, a record in sports history, but not something that affects the personal lives of voters and their families.

Which is why I am perfectly okay with the President utilizing what is needed to enhance their ability to make decisions.

This is about cheating; do you want this for the individual with access to the nuclear button?

Would it be irrelevant to you if your physician got their medical degree by cheating on tests, or the engineer who designed the vehicles or planes you travel in by cheating on their tests?

That physician and engineer very likely got their degrees with the help of drugs, even if just coffee. Maybe some Xanax for panic attacks. I make copious use of caffeine and Ibuprofen as an educator making decisions for other people's children!

 

[Viker]

If that's the case, then I think the issue there would only be for illegal drugs; I don't know that this would specifically apply to performance enhancing drugs; since you brought this up, perhaps you could enlighten us about that.

Even if Biden is taking drugs for any conditions he may have due to his age it is irrelevant and any of these drugs would be legal.

 

[Watchmen]

Sure - we do want our "commander and chief" not to underperform, but do we want someone who's dependent on drugs in order to not underperform, especially when there may be someone else available who isn't?

By being dependent on drugs to not underperform, there can be problems like adverse reactions or overdoses. I don't know if anything Biden or Trump might be on can medically fit into this category, but it can still be risky to have someone with access to the nuclear button to be drugged up.

Now, let's discuss with this is really about, which is that some suspect that Biden isn't really running things in the Oval Office & he's only being drugged up so he looks like he has no deteriorating mental conditions to the public. Your response disregards this possibility.

Who said anything about being dependent?

Regarding the “possibility” you reference, I don’t engage with conspiracy theories.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Now, let's discuss with this is really about, which is that some suspect that Biden isn't really running things in the Oval Office & he's only being drugged up so he looks like he has no deteriorating mental conditions to the public. Your response disregards this possibility.

This is about cheating; do you want this for the individual with access to the nuclear button?

Would it be irrelevant to you if your physician got their medical degree by cheating on tests, or the engineer who designed the vehicles or planes you travel in by cheating on their tests?

To add to my last response, why are you assuming that the President, or a Doctor, or an Engineer are working independently and aren't supported by colleagues?

Presidents ought to be expected to rely on their advisors. No single President should be solely responsible for executing the responsibility of their office. And in trusting one of the candidates to that ability to collaborate and ask for help when necessary or defer to experts, I think Biden is clearly far more trustworthy than Mr. Nepotism; Mr
"I will choose the best people who I will ignore, eventually abondon, and will become indicted criminals."

 

[Pogo]

Not relevant to this thread.

seriously neil deal with yourself.
I think I see the problem, you wish to present yourself as the ambivalent interlocutor, as much as you try, you are not perceived as such.

 

[F1fan]

The funny thing about the right wing claims of Biden being drugged is that drugs only enhance the natural state and ability. If Biden had dementia then drugs would make it more apparent. This illustrates how naive and gullible right wing media watchers are. No facts, no thinking. All indoctrination. This is why an emotionally disturbed person is their nominee.

 

[Clizby Wampuscat]

Calls for Biden to take drug tests immediately before and after the POTUS debates are being made to determine if he has taken any performance enhancing substances:

Ex-White House doctor Ronny Jackson calls on Biden to take drug test before Trump debate

Former White House physician and current House Republican Rep. Ronny Jackson is pushing President Biden to take a cognitive test before his debate with former President Trump.

www.foxnews.com

If Trump and Biden did take drug tests Biden could make all of us conservatives look foolish. He won't though.

 

[Soandso]

If Trump and Biden did take drug tests Biden could make all of us conservatives look foolish. He won't though.

What would it prove, exactly? Like, why would he do that?... If people who don't have your best interest at heart and want to drag your name through the mud demand you to do things to clear your name from the random accusations they make up about you, do you acquiesce to their weird demands? If it were me, I'd just walk away and not waste my time

 

[Quintessence]

Joke and be humorous all you want, but I didn't post this thread in such forum sections. I'm not joking and who becomes or is POTUS is no joke.

This is about something that affects our lives.

If Biden is in fact being drugged up to look good to the public then I consider that a joke, a bad joke on me, my country, and the rest of the world.

I mean... even if true that's kind of nothing next to a convicted rapist and felon who has narcissistic personality disorder and is thus literally incapable of being any sort of public servant unless they are on drugs too.

In any case, to me this is entirely the wrong question to ask anyway. The correct question is - should candidates for elected office take drug tests? There's no reason to single out anyone in particular - if you are going to test elected representatives for drugs, that means all of them are tested for drugs. But this too is probably the wrong question to ask as well because there are so few actual qualifications for holding public office mandatory drug tests are absolutely not where I would start in terms of enforcing qualifications.

 

[anotherneil]

Which is why I am perfectly okay with the President utilizing what is needed to enhance their ability to make decisions.

How about Trump? Are you ok with both having positive performance enhancing drug test results, or only Biden?

That physician and engineer very likely got their degrees with the help of drugs, even if just coffee. Maybe some Xanax for panic attacks. I make copious use of caffeine and Ibuprofen as an educator making decisions for other people's children!

You're either dodging or it wasn't clear to you that I was obviously referring to stealing the answer keys to the test questions, copying off of other students, looking at their notes when they're not supposed to, or using the internet on their phones when they're not supposed to; what if your physicians or engineers were cheating in this manner?

 

[anotherneil]

Even if Biden is taking drugs for any conditions he may have due to his age it is irrelevant and any of these drugs would be legal.

This isn't about medication for arthritis pain or for treating osteoporosis.

Would it be different for Trump?

What if they test positive for illegal drugs? Would that concern you?

 

[anotherneil]

Who said anything about being dependent?

I did. I started this thread, and I'm bringing it up because it's relevant.

Are you feigning getting triggered to intentionally misconstrue "dependent" in the context of addicted to drugs, as opposed to the explicitly clarified context - relying on drugs for performance enhancement purposes?

Hmmm Is there something you know that the rest of us doesn't know?

Regarding the “possibility” you reference, I don’t engage with conspiracy theories.

Yet you are here responding in this thread.

 

[anotherneil]

The funny thing about the right wing claims of Biden being drugged is that drugs only enhance the natural state and ability. If Biden had dementia then drugs would make it more apparent. This illustrates how naive and gullible right wing media watchers are. No facts, no thinking. All indoctrination. This is why an emotionally disturbed person is their nominee.

Then what if it's something other than dementia?

 

[anotherneil]

If Trump and Biden did take drug tests Biden could make all of us conservatives look foolish.

How could it make "us conservatives" look foolish, especially if they came back positive for performance enhancement or illegal drugs?

He won't though.

Why not? If I were Biden (or a Democrat, in general), then I would want to take any and every opportunity to make them look foolish.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

How about Trump? Are you ok with both having positive performance enhancing drug test results, or only Biden?

Yeah. The point is either one could be President.

You're either dodging or it wasn't clear to you that I was obviously referring to stealing the answer keys to the test questions, copying off of other students, looking at their notes when they're not supposed to, or using the internet on their phones when they're not supposed to; what if your physicians or engineers were cheating in this manner?

Niether dodging, and I understood, but it is not an equivalent comparison. I made it equivalent.

 

[anotherneil]

I mean... even if true that's kind of nothing next to a convicted rapist and felon who has narcissistic personality disorder and is thus literally incapable of being any sort of public servant unless they are on drugs too.

In any case, to me this is entirely the wrong question to ask anyway. The correct question is - should candidates for elected office take drug tests? There's no reason to single out anyone in particular - if you are going to test elected representatives for drugs, that means all of them are tested for drugs. But this too is probably the wrong question to ask as well because there are so few actual qualifications for holding public office mandatory drug tests are absolutely not where I would start in terms of enforcing qualifications.

The article is specifically about taking performance enhancement drug tests immediately before and after the upcoming POTUS debates.

 

[anotherneil]

Yeah. The point is either one could be President.

Ok.

Niether dodging, and I understood, but it is not an equivalent comparison. I made it equivalent.

Actually it seems more like you're attacking a straw man.

 

[anotherneil]

seriously neil deal with yourself.
I think I see the problem, you wish to present yourself as the ambivalent interlocutor, as much as you try, you are not perceived as such.

Any progress with your software issues?