Yes.
We're not celebrating Guy Fawkes. We're celebrating the King's survival. That's the purpose of it.
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Should Christian’s Celebrate Pagan Festivals
- Thread starter Soapy
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We're not celebrating Guy Fawkes. We're celebrating the King's survival. That's the purpose of it.
Soapy
Son of his Father: The Heir and Prince
Symbolic usages???
You said it's Pagan.
Soapy
Son of his Father: The Heir and Prince
I live in the uk and grown up with this festival - I have NEVER heard the aspect you stated. It may be true - but it was ALWAYS about burning the effigy on a bonfire - hence the rmpahadis led to the festival being termed ’Guy Fawkes night
- Guy Fawkes Night, also known as Guy Fawkes Day, Bonfire Night and Fireworks Night, is an annual commemoration observed on 5 November, primarily in Great ... (Wikipedia…)
Soapy
Son of his Father: The Heir and Prince
Where are you going with this ?? Slow. Sunday for you….????
“The name Easter may have pagan origins. “Although quite a few people think of it being linked to the Hebrew word Pesach or Passover, there's also a tradition in northern Europe that it's linked to the pagan springtime goddess Eostre,” Hann said. “She is basically celebrated during the spring, at the spring equinox.” (Internet …)
But in Christianity we have this:
- “Easter is one of the principal holidays, or feasts, of Christianity. It marks the Resurrection of Jesus three days after his death by crucifixion. For many Christian churches, Easter is the joyful end to the Lenten season of fasting and penitence.” (Internet…)
- “Be careful not to make a treaty with those who live in the [Pagan] land; for when they prostitute themselves to their gods and sacrifice to them, they will invite you and you will eat their sacrifices.” (Exodus 34:15)
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Err, yes, burning an effigy is not a good thing. We do this to kill him over and over again.
I think you've misunderstood the point of the festival. I'm not even going to argue about this with you.
Soapy
Son of his Father: The Heir and Prince
Goood. Thanks. I couldn’t understand where you were going with your input seeing that I have never heard of bonfires night as CELEBRATING the life of James 1..,!l
What do you actually think is being celebrated at Bonfire Night?
Someone trying to kill the king?
I mean, really? You've lived in the UK for how long and you don't know this?
Soapy
Son of his Father: The Heir and Prince
Which part… be clear!!!I'm talking about this!
Soapy
Son of his Father: The Heir and Prince
Groan…,, go away!!!!
You could just say you were wrong and misunderstood it.
It's not hard.
'The Catholic plotters had intended to assassinate Protestant king James I and his parliament. Celebrating that the king had survived, people lit bonfires around London. Months later, the Observance of 5th November Act mandated an annual public day of thanksgiving for the plot's failure.'
Guy Fawkes Night - Wikipedia
Altfish
Veteran Member
Isn't quoting this Forum a bit of a circular argument?
At this point it's been done to death. There are good answers on those threads. I don't want to waste my time retyping it all. It's right there.
Altfish
Veteran Member
OK.
I don't agree but I'll back off and let you set the narrative despite plenty of evidence to the contrary.
Altfish
Veteran Member
I have spent the last hour Googling and found nothing that contradicts what I said.
Secret Chief
Veteran Member
Thanks, @Augustus already pitched in! Bloody wikipedia. Although it doesn't seem definitive either way? As to Christmas, I thought it was generally accepted Jesus was not born in December?
Secret Chief
Veteran Member
For the UK it was Prince Albert (from Germany). Before that :
"It’s difficult to pinpoint exactly when and where these pagan traditions morphed into the tradition as we know it: Several countries claim to be the birthplace of the Christmas tree, and there are competing mythologies that seek to explain what it all means."
- Why do we have Christmas trees? The surprising history behind this festive tradition.
Secret Chief
Veteran Member
Really? So if you were to ask 10 random people the name of the King how many would know it?
Bonfire night is mainly about the simple enjoyment of seeing and hearing fireworks and scaring pets and wildlife. No-one gives a monkey's about any kings or even thinks about such things as restoring Catholic monarchs.
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