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Should scientist be fired for objectively adhering to evolution while subjectively believing theism?

Spirosmav

Member
Should scientist be fired for objectively adhering to evolution while subjectively believing in theism or deism?
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
Ah, just so you're aware, one can believe in theism or deism and still believe evolution takes place. They aren't necessarily mutually exclusive, so it's not a reason for firing.

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David T

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Most scientists who are theists evaluate modern evolution theory as true.
They tend to affirm Life interconnected as true. The conflicts come in context to that not is that.

Darwin experienced observation of categories not being literally object/void /object separated. He then created an astrology like projection onto that. But life interconnected was stated 700 years earlier in religious writings of st francis. So Darwin's theory about that is really what is argued most often. In christianity its articulated "family of god" but in an intellectualism community like religion that generally is only human and more specifically at times just their congregational view as opposed to another view.
 

David T

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Should scientist be fired for objectively adhering to evolution while subjectively believing in theism or deism?
A lot of scientists who are more field oriented rather than lab, classroom theoretical tend to be more animistic..But animism has zero to do with beliefs really. Environmental studies types tend to be more systems oriented and self select because of that. They also tend to be more like john muir than an atheist. John muir was both a scientist and very very poetic about nature. So should someone be fired for being poetic and scientific? I would think science narrative is already dull enough and meaningless to make it duller and more meaningless is counter productive to science.
 

Spirosmav

Member
What makes you think that one cannot be both a theist and accept the fact that life is the product of evolution?

Your OP appears to be a bit of a strawman.


I am actually pandering to the stereotypical 'intellectual' atheist who assume that theist, deist, and agnostic are all ignorant overtly emotional people who are reduced as irrational fairy tale believers..and that they are intellectuals because they proudly identify as atheist while being fallible due to totally ruling out the possibility of deistic or theistic God or creator. There are many scientist who objectively adhere to evolution while being deist, theist or agnostic
 

Spirosmav

Member
Belief in God and accepting the truth of evolution are totally compatible.

am actually pandering to the stereotypical 'intellectual' atheist who assume that theist, deist, and agnostic are all ignorant overtly emotional people who are reduced as irrational fairy tale believers..and that they are intellectuals because they proudly identify as atheist while being fallible due to totally ruling out the possibility of deistic or theistic God or creator. There are many scientist who objectively adhere to evolution while being deist, theist or agnostic
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I am actually pandering to the stereotypical 'intellectual' atheist who assume that theist, deist, and agnostic are all ignorant overtly emotional people who are reduced as irrational fairy tale believers..and that they are intellectuals because they proudly identify as atheist while being fallible due to totally ruling out the possibility of deistic or theistic God or creator. There are many scientist who objectively adhere to evolution while being deist, theist or agnostic


What "stereo typical 'intelligent' atheist" would that be?

And your response still does not explain the strawman in the OP.
 

Spirosmav

Member
What "stereo typical 'intelligent' atheist" would that be?

And your response still does not explain the strawman in the OP.


There is no specific one. I have read a lot of articles and met ppl who have Darwinist bumper sticker and t shirts who act intellectually superior to those they assume do not objectively adhere to evolution. Some of them are hypocritically dogmatic as if their Darwinism or atheism is a religion
 
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Skwim

Veteran Member
I am actually pandering to the stereotypical 'intellectual' atheist who assume that theist, deist, and agnostic are all ignorant overtly emotional people who are reduced as irrational fairy tale believers..and that they are intellectuals because they proudly identify as atheist while being fallible due to totally ruling out the possibility of deistic or theistic God or creator. There are many scientist who objectively adhere to evolution while being deist, theist or agnostic
Gotta say, this is one of the goofiest posts that's appeared here on RF in a long time. Thanks for the day brightener. :thumbsup:

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Skwim

Veteran Member
There is no specific one. I have read a lot of articles and met ppl who have Darwinist bumper sticker and t shirts who act intellectually superior to those they assume do not objectively adhere to evolution. Some of them are hypocritically dogmatic as if their Darwinism or atheism is a religion
Well, shame on them for acting out how they feel. Shame, shame, shame. Of course you are aware that

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See source for explanation. :D

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