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Should SCOTUS Leaker Face Criminal Charges
- Thread starter esmith
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Subduction Zone
Veteran Member
It appears to be a betrayal of trust, but I am unaware of any law that was broken.
mikkel_the_dane
My own religion
You left out I don't know because I am not a layer and I don't the law for that.
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Sure. Slap on the wrist.
For this to be a crime there has to be a law that prohibits it. And you can't make up laws after the fact and arrest someone.
It is a firing offense. If it is a court clerk his/her career is ruined.
Let's note that this sort of controversy is following Trump and his three SC picks, who were controversial themselves. They ere picked for the sole agenda of overturning Roe. This is all a scandal. The SC has lost credibility because Alito and other justices are imposing their extreme Christian views into law, which is supposed to be secular and objective and progressive. This abuse of the SC by McConnell, Trump, and other republicans is why the court has lost respect and credibility. This leak is another example of how the court is failing under unethical conservatism.
It is a firing offense. If it is a court clerk his/her career is ruined.
Let's note that this sort of controversy is following Trump and his three SC picks, who were controversial themselves. They ere picked for the sole agenda of overturning Roe. This is all a scandal. The SC has lost credibility because Alito and other justices are imposing their extreme Christian views into law, which is supposed to be secular and objective and progressive. This abuse of the SC by McConnell, Trump, and other republicans is why the court has lost respect and credibility. This leak is another example of how the court is failing under unethical conservatism.
They certainly shouldn't be allow anywhere near the SCOTUS anymore.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Ditto on that.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
It's rather weird that the OP deals with that but not the impact of the decision on millions of Americans, especially since if true would go against roughly 70% of Americans who say they don't want Roe v Wade overturned, and 89% of women in a recent poll said they are against it being overturned if it also included rape and incest victims not be allowed to have one.
Altfish
Veteran Member
"Shoot the messenger"
It depends on who leaked it and for what purpose. It could certainly violate certain ethical rules if it was leaked by a member of the bar.
Or maybe they’re constitutional purists. And maybe this is how checks and balances work. And maybe Congress could pass laws about abortion, furthering the checks and balances.
GardenLady
Active Member
Maybe the Supremes should have to make a case that they have a Constitutional right to privacy and secrecy in the performance of their tax-payer funded government jobs.
Most likely, it is some intern, who will then be summarily fired.
More interesting would be if it is Thomas' spouse.
More interesting would be if it is Thomas' spouse.
esmith
Veteran Member
I should have stated the poll questions as follows:
"Should the person who leaker SCOTUS draft face criminal charges if it is a determined that a criminal act took place"
vice the current question...my fault
To the other point of your statement:
At the present time we do not know if this is really what the SCOTUS will put forth.
Until so it is a moot point.
esmith
Veteran Member
see my above post #15
You have made the question nearly tautological.
Generally, if it is determined that a criminal act has taken place there should be criminal charges. If it is determined that no criminal act has taken place there should be no criminal charges.
The question is, has a criminal act taken place?
esmith
Veteran Member
As in the Edward Snowden case there were those who thought he didn't deserved
the punishment he received. I suspected if in this case if there was a criminal act
there would be also be disagreement over right or wrong.
How about a parade?
Probably. Which is why I described it as “nearly tautological”.
But then comes the next question. If it is a crime, and If there are charges, and If there is actually a conviction, then what should the sentence be?
In a situation like this where it is not immediately clear if it is even a crime I don’t think a steep sentence is called for.