Should the Catholic Church Acknowledge the Destruction of Classical Pagan Culture?

[SomeRandom]

Sure, I wasn't being entirely serious, if you want to understand Western cultural development the bible should be on your reading list. Just a warning though, it is hard work at times; rambling, repetitive, scarcely coherent in places. Good luck if you want to try it, not sure how much time you would want to spend on the endeavour, but I'd certainly recommend one with a commentary to help interpret the meaning of certain verses, certain passages. I'd recommend the NIV Study Bible which certainly interprets it from a Christian point of view, without trying to convert you into one particular denomination/cult.

My TBR already has all the epics like the Illiad and Aneid and the Fagles translation of the Odyssey (the Butler translation was kind of wonky) and "our" epics like the Mahabarata, the Gita etc.
Maybe the Bible can be on next year's goal reads LOL
Until then I at least have The Bible Reloaded

 

[England my lionheart]

The catholic church doesn't even acknowledge that allowing the use of condoms could save a lot of lives and prevent unwanted ones so I wouldn't hold your breath.

 

[metis]

The catholic church doesn't even acknowledge that allowing the use of condoms could save a lot of lives and prevent unwanted ones so I wouldn't hold your breath.

Actually it does and has. Not only that, it also says it may be best for some women to use b.c. pills if their health requires it.

Now, don't get me wrong, I understand why the church originally took the stand that it did on not allowing b.c., but times and conditions have changed enough whereas I believe the church would be better off for the world's sake saying that it's morally acceptable to use them.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Actually it does and has.

Source?

Not only that, it also says it may be best for some women to use b.c. pills if their health requires it.

i.e. not for contraception.

Now, don't get me wrong, I understand why the church originally took the stand that it did on not allowing b.c., but times and conditions have changed enough whereas I believe the church would be better off for the world's sake saying that it's morally acceptable to use them.

I don't undestand it, personally. I've read Humani Generis: the argument against contraception seems ridiculous (an argument from design, basically) and it's inconsistent with the Church's positions on other issues.

 

[metis]

Source?

After decades of fierce opposition to the use of all contraception, the Pontiff has ended the Church’s absolute ban on the use of condoms. He said it was acceptable to use a prophylactic when the sole intention was to “reduce the risk of infection” from Aids.-- The Pope drops Catholic ban on condoms in historic shift

I don't undestand it, personally. I've read Humani Generis: the argument against contraception seems ridiculous (an argument from design, basically) and it's inconsistent with the Church's positions on other issues.

It comes from the biblical teaching to "go forth and multiply".

 

[England my lionheart]

Actually it does and has. Not only that, it also says it may be best for some women to use b.c. pills if their health requires it.

Now, don't get me wrong, I understand why the church originally took the stand that it did on not allowing b.c., but times and conditions have changed enough whereas I believe the church would be better off for the world's sake saying that it's morally acceptable to use them.

I just read about that,its good he said what he did,the idea still has opponents though but totally agree with the church saying its morally acceptable to use them.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

So, just a thought, are you going to apologize for the lions?? Or the arson of Rome and subsequent frame job??

Oh, and I think you need to apologize to the Jews as well, for taking their temple and turning it into a temple to Zeus without their permission.

You are a Hellenic pagan after all. If you want the Catholics to apologize for the slights against your religion, are you prepared to offer the same in kind??

I am fortunate enough to belong to a religion relatively young enough to have not committed many atrocities yet. I think with this mentality I'd have to apologize to the Shia for those guys that tried to assassinate the Persian Shah?? But that's relatively it.

Or, a radical idea, sins are not genetic, and thus there is no need for apologies from the people descended from their terrible ancestors.

The alternative is that you should have opened this OP apologizing to the Christians and Jews for your faith's ancient crimes against them, not merely demanding they apologize for their ancient crimes against you. Either everyone is culpable for their faith's ancient crimes, or no one is!! And if it is everyone, then those of us with newer religions are less culpable all around.

Why should I apologize for Nero and Antiochus IV? History already remembers them as lunatics. I prefer Alexander the Great, Hadrian and Julian. Those were crimes by rulers (some of which were probably made up as atrocity propaganda by Christians later on), not religious institutions. The Catholic Church is supposed to be God's Church, guided by the Holy Spirit, yet they have been involved in the worst sorts of crime to this day and people still laud it and they get away with it. They are like the Mafia (which the Vatican Bank has ties to). They promote all sorts of backwardness across the globe, such as with their treatment of women and LGBT people. Even with divorced people, they are quite nasty. Part of the reason why I left the Church is because I could no longer excuse the moral bankrupcy of it throughout the ages.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

After decades of fierce opposition to the use of all contraception, the Pontiff has ended the Church’s absolute ban on the use of condoms. He said it was acceptable to use a prophylactic when the sole intention was to “reduce the risk of infection” from Aids.-- The Pope drops Catholic ban on condoms in historic shift

It comes from the biblical teaching to "go forth and multiply".

He didn't end the ban. It's still basically a sin but it might be a step on the road of developing a moral conscience, is what he's saying. He's using very careful language there.

 

[metis]

He didn't end the ban. It's still basically a sin but it might be a step on the road of developing a moral conscience, is what he's saying. He's using very careful language there.

Yes, but what he was in essence saying is that there can be extenuating circumstances that may allow for such usage.