AnthonyGiarrusso
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Should the legal age to possess, buy, and sell tobacco products be raised from age 18 to age 21?
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To what end?Should the legal age to possess, buy, and sell tobacco products be raised from age 18 to age 21?
I don't understand the 18 vs. 21 age limits, but it had to do something with the draft during World War II.I'm assuming this is in the US?
I never understood the 18 and 21 legal age limits. What are these numbers based on? Why were these ages, specifically, decided?
I think it makes more sense for age limits in general, especially when it comes to substances which can impair the development of our neurochemistry, to 25 since that is around the age that the human brain begins to fully mature.
That said, I can't say that I find much agreement with prohibition. I do think that temperance is a virtue, but it's not a virtue if you're forced into it. More than that, I think arbitrarily limiting the jobs that teenagers can take on might exacerbate the effects of inherited poverty, although that not a promotion of child labor.
As such, I think the limit on selling tobacco products could actually stand to be lowered 1 or 2 years, depending on the labor laws in the state, and I think that's more important than raising the age to obtain goods that underage minors honestly already have access to regardless of the legal limits.
I'm assuming this is in the US?
I never understood the 18 and 21 legal age limits. What are these numbers based on? Why were these ages, specifically, decided?
I think it makes more sense for age limits in general, especially when it comes to substances which can impair the development of our neurochemistry, to 25 since that is around the age that the human brain begins to fully mature.
That said, I can't say that I find much agreement with prohibition. I do think that temperance is a virtue, but it's not a virtue if you're forced into it. More than that, I think arbitrarily limiting the jobs that teenagers can take on might exacerbate the effects of inherited poverty, although that not a promotion of child labor.
As such, I think the limit on selling tobacco products could actually stand to be lowered 1 or 2 years, depending on the labor laws in the state, and I think that's more important than raising the age to obtain goods that underage minors honestly already have access to regardless of the legal limits.
That's not going to happen, though.Eh... Not so sure I agree on your child labor take. Making it easier for companies to exploit younger people for profit doesn't sound like such a great prospect to me - especially when we've already seen how that manifests in history. I'd like to see refocusing efforts on strengthening unions so people can bargain for higher wages and more protections against those greedy corporations so families can have more disposable funds to help alleviate themselves from poverty, imo. Not sure that there's a better way out there than that, that I'm aware of
It is self-evident that the age at which society judges a human being old enough to be appropriated involuntarily for warfare is the age at which he can enjoy all rights reserved for adult-level judgment. Any other course is an abuse of rights on the part of society.Should the legal age to possess, buy, and sell tobacco products be raised from age 18 to age 21?
It is self-evident that age at which society judges a human being old enough to be appropriated involuntarily for warfare is the age at which he can enjoy all rights reserved for adult-level judgment. Any other course is an abuse of rights on the part of society.
I agree. I'm curious to know what part of the idea you wouldn't consider to be truth? ("some truth in this") I'm not asking to find fault; I'm genuinely curious to know if you would include some other qualifier, etc.There's some truth in this.
We can raise the age for soldiering, of course, but expecting people to be old enough to kill and be killed on command, but not old enough to decide whether they want to use a perfectly legal product is somewhat perverse.
I agree. I'm curious to know what part of the idea you wouldn't consider to be truth? ("some truth in this") I'm not asking to find fault; I'm genuinely curious to know if you would include some other qualifier, etc.
Understood. I think we all have to admit that any age selected is arbitrary.Mostly just a turn of phrase to be honest. There are some age limits that aren't really related to mere adulthood, but more to having time to acquire life experience (I think).
An example is that you need to be 35 to be the President. I'm not sure what my opinion is on that, but I guess there is a line there where you're old enough to kill on an individual level, but not old enough to have access to a nuclear arsenal. Or something.
Should the legal age to possess, buy, and sell tobacco products be raised from age 18 to age 21?
That's not going to happen, though.
I've been saying this point exactly for over a decade now. Great response Mock Turtle!Tobacco smoking should be banned completely. We are currently likely to be getting a new generation of people addicted to vaping - and this has hardly been proved to be safe, and apparently is already showing signs of causing health problems, many of which could be just as long-term as those caused by smoking from an early age. I tried to persuade my early friends (from school) to stop smoking (unsuccessfully), given that the link between smoking and lung cancer had been made by then. But the main point, as per vaping, is that if one smokes one is just wasting money that could be spent elsewhere and which is hardly nominal. Just a silly habit.![]()
I’m following your lead, that just like those evil trans people, tobacco should not be allowed to exist…Should the legal age to possess, buy, and sell tobacco products be raised from age 18 to age 21?