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Show your support for Trump!

Of course Tump is a d_uchebag and a panderer, but I'm still voting for him. He's not going to do the more extreme things he says he'll do, but he will give America a good kick in the _ss, not unlike what a lazy teenager might need to get his act together.

The world and Democrats hate Trump in the same way they hate American ideals. They want a submissive America, but we're modern-day Rome. We're the leader of the free world. We're exceptional. We kick _ss and take names. In America, you can flip the bird to the President's face and nobody will arrest you. (Try doing that to a monarch.) In America, you can build your own business and nobody will annex it. You can publish anything about the government and not be charged with treason. (Not even the British have that freedom.) You can post online about atheism and not receive lashings, like what happened to the young guy in Saudi Arabia recently.

At this time in history, Trump is the braggadocious jack_ss America needs. We certainly don't need Comrade Sanders or Hillary Klingon; we've suffered enough of that under Barry Soetero.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I can't really support him, except to the extent that if it's between him & Hillary, I wish him well.

Reality...its perception sure varies from person to person.
Looking at Hillary's record on war, I see it portending trouble...big trouble.
Yet few Democrats see this as a problem, if they see it at all.
There are some exceptions.....
http://www.commondreams.org/news/20...-resigns-throws-support-behind-bernie-sanders
 
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NewChapter

GiveMeATicketToWork
Of course Tump is a d_uchebag and a panderer, but I'm still voting for him. He's not going to do the more extreme things he says he'll do, but he will give America a good kick in the _ss, not unlike what a lazy teenager might need to get his act together.

The world and Democrats hate Trump in the same way they hate American ideals. They want a submissive America, but we're modern-day Rome. We're the leader of the free world. We're exceptional. We kick _ss and take names. In America, you can flip the bird to the President's face and nobody will arrest you. (Try doing that to a monarch.) In America, you can build your own business and nobody will annex it. You can publish anything about the government and not be charged with treason. (Not even the British have that freedom.) You can post online about atheism and not receive lashings, like what happened to the young guy in Saudi Arabia recently.

At this time in history, Trump is the braggadocious jack_ss America needs. We certainly don't need Comrade Sanders or Hillary Klingon; we've suffered enough of that under Barry Soetero.

What are his positions on the Russian sanctions and the Chinese islands disputes?
 

Sultan Of Swing

Well-Known Member
(Try doing that to a monarch.) In America, you can build your own business and nobody will annex it. You can publish anything about the government and not be charged with treason. (Not even the British have that freedom.)
The Queen gets made fun of plenty. People publish all sorts of things about the British government. Where are you getting this from?
 

Nietzsche

The Last Prussian
Premium Member
Of course Tump is a d_uchebag and a panderer, but I'm still voting for him. He's not going to do the more extreme things he says he'll do, but he will give America a good kick in the _ss, not unlike what a lazy teenager might need to get his act together.

The world and Democrats hate Trump in the same way they hate American ideals. They want a submissive America, but we're modern-day Rome. We're the leader of the free world. We're exceptional. We kick _ss and take names. In America, you can flip the bird to the President's face and nobody will arrest you. (Try doing that to a monarch.) In America, you can build your own business and nobody will annex it. You can publish anything about the government and not be charged with treason. (Not even the British have that freedom.) You can post online about atheism and not receive lashings, like what happened to the young guy in Saudi Arabia recently.

At this time in history, Trump is the braggadocious jack_ss America needs. We certainly don't need Comrade Sanders or Hillary Klingon; we've suffered enough of that under Barry Soetero.
So, would you mind telling us what else is different in your world? And more importantly, how you figured out inter-dimensional internet access? Because there are only two other alternatives. One, you're so comically unobservant that it's amazing you even know there's an election going on, or two you're an undiagnosed schizophrenic.
 

Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
Premium Member
It's my lot in life to keep them aware of her voting record on wars.
Which I can appreciate. Back to the OP for a moment. My biggest beef with Trump is I cannot tell if what he is saying is a genuine statement or if this is all a ploy to pander to the far right. You know? I hear him say things and I think... "No way he can mean that... maybe I am misunderstanding."
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
It seems to me this election is essentally Capitalism vs Socialism.

Too bad it has to boil down to Trump and HIllary, but if it's a lawyer against a businessman. ...
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Which I can appreciate. Back to the OP for a moment. My biggest beef with Trump is I cannot tell if what he is saying is a genuine statement or if this is all a ploy to pander to the far right. You know? I hear him say things and I think... "No way he can mean that... maybe I am misunderstanding."
Without a political record, he is indeed more unpredictable.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
It seems to me this election is essentally Capitalism vs Socialism.
Hillary & Bernie aren't real socialists.
They're still capitalists, albeit with a much bigger welfare state & much more regulation.
I don't see whether one or the other would be more effective at steering us in that direction.
The big difference looks to be foreign policy.
Hillary likes war.
Bernie doesn't.
Too bad it has to boil down to Trump and HIllary, but if it's a lawyer against a businessman. ...
Lawyers.....they make me think of Shakespeare.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Trump would most likely be a nightmare, and if one is going to use Hillary's votes on going into Iraq and Afghanistan against her, which is fair game imo, let me remind people that this also is what Trump originally had proposed. Therefore, the issue of war between those two really cancel each other out.

That leaves the other issues, and I think that voting for Trump would be absolutely reckless. I'd be more comfortable voting for my 11 year old granddaughter because at least I know she's a nice person.
 
So, would you mind telling us what else is different in your world? And more importantly, how you figured out inter-dimensional internet access? Because there are only two other alternatives. One, you're so comically unobservant that it's amazing you even know there's an election going on, or two you're an undiagnosed schizophrenic.

Trump is the lesser of three evils, so I'll vote for him.

Yes, a lot of his attitude is an act, but what's the worst that can happen with a President Trump? He'll be a lame-duck president? The crazy sh_t he talks about will never happen because the POTUS is not a monarch.

What can I say? As a libertarian capitalist who supports the populist opinion above any political ideology, I prefer Trump over Sanders and Clinton. I define exceptionalism--in both the individual and the state--not as wealth or power or prestige, but as a willingness to act according to morally superior principles while striving towards morally superior ideals. This is what makes America "great," and this is why, after we'd won our independence from the British and were in massive debt and had no presence on the world stage, we were considered "exceptional." Greatness is inherent to America, and Trump, for all his faults, has tapped into that timeless zeitgeist of this nation in a way comparable to Lincoln and Kennedy and Reagan. When you hear Trump speak, you know he believes in America's greatness. It stirs people to look past his many, many flaws. (Get it, left-wingers?)

PS

For all those Democrats who accuse Trump of racism, let's not forget Obama's offensive gaffes, like when he described his grandmother as a "typical white person" and when he compared his bowling skills to what might be found in the Special Olympics.

Guess the best way to tell a man's heart is to catch him without his TelePrompTer!
 

Nietzsche

The Last Prussian
Premium Member
What can I say? As a libertarian capitalist who supports the populist opinion above any political ideology
Ah, no wonder you support Trump. You hold the worst possible political opinion, namely that mob-rule has any kind of redeeming value. Populism turned Europe into a ****ing charnel house. You'll excuse me if I am wary of demagogues who rely on whipping up the most base instincts of an under-educated voting populace.
 

Laika

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
What can I say? As a libertarian capitalist who supports the populist opinion above any political ideology, I prefer Trump over Sanders and Clinton. I define exceptionalism--in both the individual and the state--not as wealth or power or prestige, but as a willingness to act according to morally superior principles while striving towards morally superior ideals. This is what makes America "great," and this is why, after we'd won our independence from the British and were in massive debt and had no presence on the world stage, we were considered "exceptional." Greatness is inherent to America, and Trump, for all his faults, has tapped into that timeless zeitgeist of this nation in a way comparable to Lincoln and Kennedy and Reagan. When you hear Trump speak, you know he believes in America's greatness. It stirs people to look past his many, many flaws. (Get it, left-wingers?)

Yeah, I get it. But believing in greatness and achieveing greatness are not the same thing. the "buzz" feels good I grant you and if you are politically active you can get alot done for a short time because you feel motivated. but you'll wake up after election day and realise Trump is not a symbol of America's greatness. He's just a man. Messianic Cults make you feel high and empowering but be careful of the power you are entrusting him with. Look what happened with Obama. Did electing a black man for president really bring about Hope and Change and heal decades of racial division, or give us a really media saavy "cool" president who lets the NSA watch us, keeps Guantamo bay open as black people can keep rotting in jail and getting shot in Fergerson?

Its a new face for the same system and your being taken for an Obama zombie. wake up before "hope and change" is just a faded posters on a student dorm wall and a charistmatic lair behind a podium and a seal. "change you can believe in" is not the change your going to get.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Which I can appreciate. Back to the OP for a moment. My biggest beef with Trump is I cannot tell if what he is saying is a genuine statement or if this is all a ploy to pander to the far right. You know? I hear him say things and I think... "No way he can mean that... maybe I am misunderstanding."

Personally, I think it's risky to assume Trump doesn't mean what he says. For one thing, his remarks create expectations in his base, and those expectations will put political pressure on him to deliver -- if he gets elected.
 
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