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Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
A few Christian denominations view other denominations such as Catholicism a Babylonian faith and mark of the devil.

Are there other denominations in this "Evil" category? Or is it just Catholicism?

Yes? No?

If you have exclusions, which 99% people here usually do, give me a list of what denominations you (or a denominations you know of) who view this list as evil.


Need to add more than a list? You can. Explain why the denomini you listed are evil.

I know a lot of denominations and if you mention one such as Lutherian you dont need to go into detail. They split from Catholicism and still have what some catholic elements in it. Hence, I know the opinion.

If you have to debate, please keep it on topic. I know how anti Catholics feel about Catholism.

What about other faiths? What are they? Are they Babylonian? How so?

Please noooo Catholicism. No bashing faiths.
 

StarryNightshade

Spiritually confused Jew
Premium Member
I don't have an issue with Catholicism (aside from theological and philosophical differences), but in the Southern Baptist church* I was raised in, any other church that A.) directly broke away from the Catholic church (Anglican, Lutheran) or B.) did not have a Calvinist or Evangelical stance (pretty much Mainline Protestantism as a whole) were considered as "invalid", if not necessarily "evil", as the RCC.

To give you a general idea, I was once told by the pastor that Methodists were wrong , because they didn't believe in "once saved, always saved" and they sprinkled water during baptism instead of full immersion.

* Of course, not all Southern Baptist churches are like this. Since they are congregational with each individual church has autonomy, some deviations are bound to happen.
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
A few Christian denominations view other denominations such as Catholicism a Babylonian faith and mark of the devil.

Are there other denominations in this "Evil" category? Or is it just Catholicism?

Yes? No?

If you have exclusions, which 99% people here usually do, give me a list of what denominations you (or a denominations you know of) who view this list as evil.


Need to add more than a list? You can. Explain why the denomini you listed are evil.

I know a lot of denominations and if you mention one such as Lutherian you dont need to go into detail. They split from Catholicism and still have what some catholic elements in it. Hence, I know the opinion.

If you have to debate, please keep it on topic. I know how anti Catholics feel about Catholism.

What about other faiths? What are they? Are they Babylonian? How so?

Please noooo Catholicism. No bashing faiths.


The bible answers--trinity based religions= Mark 3:24-26--with the failure to do this-1Cor 1:10
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
The bible answers--trinity based religions= Mark 3:24-26--with the failure to do this-1Cor 1:10
Trinity based denominations are unbiblical? Which denominations?

Those verses talk about undividedness. Which denominations fit that?
 
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Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Thank you. I went baptist churches years ago.
They are really anti catholic. I dont know which is more strong minded, them or JW. Charasmatic churches dont seem to have too much of an issue.

As for which is not quite Christ teachings, baptist (the sola scriptorians) are well versed in bible studies. They dont have tradition as they define it, but african american churches have tradition which they speak against ironicly.

Some non denominational churches i have issues with. One church members held me down when i seized (i have epilepsy) trying to get the holy spirit out of me.

JW I like the bible study but the focus on "non christ" denomi as evil turns me away. I cant think of any close to Christ like other than Eastern Othorodox Catholic. Im not familar with Angelican.

I don't have an issue with Catholicism (aside from theological and philosophical differences), but in the Southern Baptist church* I was raised in, any other church that A.) directly broke away from the Catholic church (Anglican, Lutheran) or B.) did not have a Calvinist or Evangelical stance (pretty much Mainline Protestantism as a whole) were considered as "invalid", if not necessarily "evil", as the RCC.

To give you a general idea, I was once told by the pastor that Methodists were wrong , because they didn't believe in "once saved, always saved" and they sprinkled water during baptism instead of full immersion.

* Of course, not all Southern Baptist churches are like this. Since they are congregational with each individual church has autonomy, some deviations are bound to happen.
 

Kolibri

Well-Known Member
Among faiths with claims of Christianity, participants may be aware of 1 Corinthians 1:10 which says:

"Now I urge you, brothers, through the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you should all speak in agreement and that there should be no divisions among you, but that you may be completely united in the same mind and in the same line of thought."

Or this verse:

"Finally, brothers, continue to rejoice, to be readjusted, to be comforted, to think in agreement, to live peaceably; and the God of love and of peace will be with you."
- 2 Corinthians 13:11

Babylon's original biblical name was Ba'bel. Now when we consider the meaning of the word Ba'bel, we have 2 prevailing views. Locals claimed that it was compounded from Bab (Gate) and ilu (God), signifying "Gate of God." However historically this city was the location where God confused the languages to get people to spread out over the earth, and thus the name could very well mean "confusion" being based off the verb ba-bal', which means "confuse."

What we see in the world today in regards to religion is a lot of "confusion." It is no wonder that the Bible refers to all organized false religion as being an empire typed after ancient Babylon.
What where the primary features of ancient Babyonish religion?

It was known for (1) Trinities or triads of gods, (2) the belief that the human soul survives death, (3) spiritism - that is somehow talking with the "dead", (4) the use of images in worship, (5) the use of spells to placate demons, and (6) rulership by a powerful priesthood.

It is interesting that despite the confusion in the world's present religious climate, these 6 things are still very common both within and without Christendom, as one would expect of an anti-typical Babylon.
 
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Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Those verses dont focus on specific denominations. Denominations I know do not practice and view idols written in scripture.

However, I just want to know:

What other denominations other than Catholicism fit the description below?

Among faiths with claims of Christianity, participants may be aware of 1 Corinthians 1:10 which says:

"Now I urge you, brothers, through the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you should all speak in agreement and that there should be no divisions among you, but that you may be completely united in the same mind and in the same line of thought."

Or this verse:

"Finally, brothers, continue to rejoice, to be readjusted, to be comforted, to think in agreement, to live peaceably; and the God of love and of peace will be with you."
- 2 Corinthians 13:11

Babylon's original biblical name was Ba'bel. Now when we consider the meaning of the word Ba'bel, we have 2 prevailing views. Locals claimed that it was compounded from Bab (Gate) and ilu (God), signifying "Gate of God." However historically this city was the location where God confused the languages to get people to spread out over the earth, and thus the name could very well mean "confusion" being based off the verb ba-bal', which means "confuse."

What we see in the world today in regards to religion is a lot of "confusion." It is no wonder that the Bible refers to all organized false religion as being an empire typed after ancient Babylon
What where the primary features of ancient Babyonish religion?

It was known for (1) Trinities or triads of gods, (2) the belief that the human soul survives death, (3) spiritism - that is somehow talking with the "dead", (4) the use of images in worship, (5) the use of spells to placate demons, and (6) rulership by a powerful priesthood.

It is interesting that despite the confusion in the world's present religious climate, these 6 things are still very common both within and without Christendom, as one would expect of an anti-typical Babylon.

Are there other denominations in this "Evil" category? Or is it just Catholicism?

What about other faiths? What are they? Are they Babylonian? How so; relate them specificly with the denimonations you listed.

Please noooo Catholicism.
 
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kjw47

Well-Known Member
Trinity based denominations are unbiblical? Which denominations?

Those verses talk about undividedness. Which denominations fit that?


All of them follow the false teachings incorporated into trinity translations from Catholicism councils--Catholicism is responsible for all errors in trinity based translations--no one else translated until over 1000 years after the councils--the originals were gone-- Catholicism works were all that was left--but it has been fixed here in these last days--The New world translation--otherwise this Daniel 12:4--and this John 4:22-24 wouldn't be possible.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
All of them follow the false teachings incorporated into trinity translations from Catholicism councils--Catholicism is responsible for all errors in trinity based translations--no one else translated until over 1000 years after the councils--the originals were gone-- Catholicism works were all that was left--but it has been fixed here in these last days--The New world translation--otherwise this Daniel 12:4--and this John 4:22-24 wouldn't be possible.
Are there non Catholic related denominationz that are false teachings? As by JW standards.
 

Kolibri

Well-Known Member
Are there non Catholic related denominationz that are false teachings? As by JW standards.

Just as when the Israelites apostatized from pure worship from the standpoint of Jehovah God in times past, so too the denomination of Christendom are seen as having done the same thing. Perhaps these denominations are more reprehensible because .they present themselves as officially representing the God of the Bible.

But ancient Babylon was never part of pure worship, rather, it was God's people that deviated to the point where they became Babylonish. So to, today, while denominations of Christendom can be seen as part of Babylon the Great, and perhaps the most reprehensible part, it is not seen as the whole of it. The anti-typical Babylon would be all organized false religion that in effect separates people from the true God of the Bible.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Just as when the Israelites apostatized from pure worship from the standpoint of Jehovah God in times past, so too the denomination of Christendom are seen as having done the same thing. Perhaps these denominations are more reprehensible because .they present themselves as officially representing the God of the Bible.

But ancient Babylon was never part of pure worship, rather, it was God's people that deviated to the point where they became Babylonish. So to, today, while denominations of Christendom can be seen as part of Babylon the Great, and perhaps the most reprehensible part, it is not seen as the whole of it. The anti-typical Babylon would be all organized false religion that in effect separates people from the true God of the Bible.

I understand JW is against christondom.

My question is. Which other specific denominations that are not Catholic oriented (i.e. lutherian, episcopalian, pryspeterian) are false teachings or aka under the Christiondom heading?

Or is just the Catholics in one way or another?
 

Whiterain

Get me off of this planet
The Protestants aren't so bad, and a whole lot of killing went that.

It's just sick what has taken place in Southern America where I grew up. The episodes I was exposed to, its sick, telling kids they're going to the lake of fire. Adam and Eve, all that Judeo business. As an adult I'm enraged children may still go through this bull****. I had some sick twisted little girl telling me about Adam and Eve as a child and how we're all damned to hell.

Ain't right for a Nord.

They ruin lads there in Church school. It's should be abolished.
 

Pegg

Jehovah our God is One
A few Christian denominations view other denominations such as Catholicism a Babylonian faith and mark of the devil.

Are there other denominations in this "Evil" category? Or is it just Catholicism?

Yes? No?

If you have exclusions, which 99% people here usually do, give me a list of what denominations you (or a denominations you know of) who view this list as evil.


Need to add more than a list? You can. Explain why the denomini you listed are evil.

I know a lot of denominations and if you mention one such as Lutherian you dont need to go into detail. They split from Catholicism and still have what some catholic elements in it. Hence, I know the opinion.

If you have to debate, please keep it on topic. I know how anti Catholics feel about Catholism.

What about other faiths? What are they? Are they Babylonian? How so?

Please noooo Catholicism. No bashing faiths.


All denominations who fail to give due honor to the Father would be in this category.
All who fail to abide by the truth as contained in the bible fall into this category.
All who fail to 'preach the word' fall into this category.
All who deny that Jesus is the Son of God fall into this category.
All who involve themselves with this worlds politics fall into this category.
All who fail to uphold Gods high moral standards fall into this category.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
For example?

We already said Catholic (and its off shoots). What about southern bapist? Non denominational? And other denominations not affiliated with Catholicism?

I believe Catholicism mirrors Christ's teachings; and, I know we have differences in opinion.

Do you feel the same with other denominations and, since yes, which ones specifically and why specifically relates to the denomni you listed

All denominations who fail to give due honor to the Father would be in this category.
All who fail to abide by the truth as contained in the bible fall into this category.
All who fail to 'preach the word' fall into this category.
All who deny that Jesus is the Son of God fall into this category.
All who involve themselves with this worlds politics fall into this category.
All who fail to uphold Gods high moral standards fall into this category.
 

Whiterain

Get me off of this planet
I've ultimately envisioned God saying, "Jesus Christ was not my Son."

Breaking through thunder cloud and lightening the few that heard this..

Then torrential weeping begot the epic of God voicing speaking through storm.
 

Pegg

Jehovah our God is One
For example?

We already said Catholic (and its off shoots). What about southern bapist? Non denominational? And other denominations not affiliated with Catholicism?

I believe Catholicism mirrors Christ's teachings; and, I know we have differences in opinion.

Do you feel the same with other denominations and, since yes, which ones specifically and why specifically relates to the denomni you listed

Do you really want me list every christian denomination who do not live up to the bibles requirements??

My view is that 'any' christian group who fails in the bibles description of what it means to be a Christian is part of Christendom.

Im not going to make an exhaustive list for you. I will encourage you to examine the history of any denomination you want to look at and see if they abide by the bibles requirement that they not engage in warfare. That is just one requirement for Christians. There are many others, but just start with that one requirement and try to find a denomination of Christians who have abided by it and refused to take up arms.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Just a couple of denominations not a whole book. And not related to Catholicism whatsoever.

Do you really want me list every christian denomination who do not live up to the bibles requirements??

My view is that 'any' christian group who fails in the bibles description of what it means to be a Christian is part of Christendom.

Im not going to make an exhaustive list for you. I will encourage you to examine the history of any denomination you want to look at and see if they abide by the bibles requirement that they not engage in warfare. That is just one requirement for Christians. There are many others, but just start with that one requirement and try to find a denomination of Christians who have abided by it and refused to take up arms.
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
I will encourage you to examine the history of any denomination you want to look at and see if they abide by the bibles requirement that they not engage in warfare.
If that is the criterion, then even the Christian God fails.

Numbers 31, 1-2
"And the LORD spoke unto Moses, saying:
'Avenge the children of Israel of the Midianites; afterward shalt thou be gathered unto thy people.'"
 
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