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Sin of pride is fundamentally different to one's remonstrating against defamation, libel or slander.


The story of Shafilea Ahmed is typical of many British Asian girls who have rejected arranged marriage to strangers in their parents' native Pakistan.

However, that is not the real point of this OP. But the purpose of this OP is to examine whether or not the sin of pride according to Christianity would be the same as one's remonstrating against defamation, libel or slander.

As some British Asian girls would consider arranged marriage to be defamatory, libellious or slanderous (since it would blacken their character); as it's understandable that anyone who is born and bred in England would never expect to be paired with a poor cousin or stranger in Pakistan.

So do you think one's remonstrating against such marriage to a third world cousin is coterminous, co-extensive, and identical to pride as a sin?


Do you think some girls reject arranged marriage to strangers with their sense of pride as the ulterior motive, or do they not have a right to be repulsed by uncivilized people from third world countries, as much as white people are usually repulsed by Commonwealth migrants in the UK?
 
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Shiranui117

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The story of Shafilea Ahmed is typical of many British Asian girls who have rejected arranged marriage to strangers in their parents' native Pakistan.

However, that is not the real point of this OP. But the purpose of this OP is to examine whether or not the sin of pride according to Christianity would be the same as one's remonstrating against defamation, libel or slander.

As some British Asian girls would consider arranged marriage to be defamatory, libellious or slanderous (since it would blacken their character); as it's understandable that anyone who is born and bred in England would never expect to be paired with a poor cousin or stranger in Pakistan.

So do you think one's remonstrating against such marriage to a third world cousin is coterminous, co-extensive, and identical to pride as a sin?


Do you think some girls reject arranged marriage to strangers with their sense of pride as the ulterior motive, or do they not have a right to be repulsed by uncivilized people from third world countries, as much as white people are usually repulsed by Commonwealth migrants in the UK?
It's one thing to be xenophobic, it's a completely different matter to be forced into a marriage with someone you don't know and have no interest in. Having severe reservations about an arranged marriage is, quite frankly, to be expected; the girl in that story deserved none of the abuse she endured, and may God rest her soul.
 
It's one thing to be xenophobic, it's a completely different matter to be forced into a marriage with someone you don't know and have no interest in. Having severe reservations about an arranged marriage is, quite frankly, to be expected; the girl in that story deserved none of the abuse she endured, and may God rest her soul.
Although I would agree with what you've said, you still haven't addressed the main point of the OP, which is to ask whether or not it would be a sin of pride for one to remonstrate against defamation of character.

Surely, it's natural for people to want to remonstrate against injustice such as defamation of character, which doesn't necessarily entail pride as a sin?
 

Shiranui117

Pronounced Shee-ra-noo-ee
Premium Member
Although I would agree with what you've said, you still haven't addressed the main point of the OP, which is to ask whether or not it would be a sin of pride for one to remonstrate against defamation of character.

Surely, it's natural for people to want to remonstrate against injustice such as defamation of character, which doesn't necessarily entail pride as a sin?
St. John Climacus said that we should ignore insults and compliments alike, and not seek to defend ourselves. And indeed, Jesus remained silent before the Sanhedrin and before Pilate when insults and scorn were heaped up on Him. That is the ideal to which I think Christians should strive. I don't think we should be concerned with defending ourselves if the only thing that is wounded is our ego. However, if the accusations against us are untrue and are causing scandal for those around us, then I'd say we should clear the air and refute the defamations for the sake of those around us. But if what our detractors say against us is true, then denying it and lying about it is most certainly a sin.
 
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