Sin vs. Son vs. Sun

[we-live-now]

(This is probably more for the person who may be a "Christian scientist")

I find these types of things very interesting... reconciling "God and science".

Today, this idea came to me and I wrote about it after pondering it for a while. What I found was amazing to me. FYI - I am a person who believes God's word is truth, but I am also a believer in science and rational thought. To me, they (will one day) fully reconcile. It is just that, not all the "sciences" and laws have "appeared" yet.

You may want to check this out if you are interested in these types of things too. I was astounded at what appeared when I was thinking of the differences between the simple words "sin", "son" and "sun".

Could they be more intimately related than we realize?

Is I.O.U the difference between "sin", "son", and "sun"?

 

[Riverwolf]

Just looking at the roots, those words have nothing whatsoever to do with each other.

Sin comes from the Old English word synn, which meant pretty much what it means now. It likely derives from a Proto-Indo-European word that also became the word "is". So "sin" and "being" are distant cousins of each other.

Son comes from Old English sunu, from Proto-Indo-European *su(e)-nu-, and has meant pretty much the same thing in all that time.

Sun is from Old English Sunne, also from Proto-Indo-European *s(u)wen, and also has stayed consistent in exactly what it's referring to.

Something that must always be remembered is that humans, as a species, are pattern-seeking animals. We seek patterns in pretty much all things, because manipulating such patterns is how we survive. One problem that comes with this, however, is that we have a strong tendency to see patterns where there aren't any (most commonly seeing human faces in various natural phenomenon). The same can happen with languages, where patterns are sensed but are very much coincidence.

 

[Sunstone]

Just looking at the roots, those words have nothing whatsoever to do with each other.

Sin comes from the Old English word synn, which meant pretty much what it means now. It likely derives from a Proto-Indo-European word that also became the word "is". So "sin" and "being" are distant cousins of each other.

Son comes from Old English sunu, from Proto-Indo-European *su(e)-nu-, and has meant pretty much the same thing in all that time.

Sun is from Old English Sunne, also from Proto-Indo-European *s(u)wen, and also has stayed consistent in exactly what it's referring to.

Something that must always be remembered is that humans, as a species, are pattern-seeking animals. We seek patterns in pretty much all things, because manipulating such patterns is how we survive. One problem that comes with this, however, is that we have a strong tendency to see patterns where there aren't any (most commonly seeing human faces in various natural phenomenon). The same can happen with languages, where patterns are sensed but are very much coincidence.

Alight! Someone else with an Indo-European dictionary! Always good to have a neighbor, so to speak.

By the way, did you know that "stud" in the sense of an upright house wall post is 6,000 years old, but "stud" in the sense of Sunstone is a much, much more recent addition?

 

[we-live-now]

Alight! Someone else with an Indo-European dictionary! Always good to have a neighbor, so to speak.

By the way, did you know that "stud" in the sense of an upright house wall post is 6,000 years old, but "stud" in the sense of Sunstone is a much, much more recent addition?

No, but that is very cool. Thx.

 

[Nietzsche]

Just looking at the roots, those words have nothing whatsoever to do with each other.

Sin comes from the Old English word synn, which meant pretty much what it means now. It likely derives from a Proto-Indo-European word that also becamte the word "is". So "sin" and "being" are distant cousins of each other.

Son comes from Old English sunu, from Proto-Indo-European *su(e)-nu-, and has meant pretty much the same thing in all that time.

Sun is from Old English Sunne, also from Proto-Indo-European *s(u)wen, and also has stayed consistent in exactly what it's referring to.

Something that must always be remembered is that humans, as a species, are pattern-seeking animals. We seek patterns in pretty much all things, because manipulating such patterns is how we survive. One problem that comes with this, however, is that we have a strong tendency to see patterns where there aren't any (most commonly seeing human faces in various natural phenomenon). The same can happen with languages, where patterns are sensed but are very much coincidence.

And here, everyone, is why stuff like the "Bible Code" and other such bull**** just doesn't work. Different languages have different etymologies & social conditions wherein the meaning of words come into existence & change.

 

[we-live-now]

And here, everyone, is why stuff like the "Bible Code" and other such bull**** just doesn't work. Different languages have different etymologies & social conditions wherein the meaning of words come into existence & change.

Does a fish know what it's like out of the water?

 

[Nietzsche]

Does a fish know what it's like out of the water?

Can it jump?

 

[Riverwolf]

Does a fish know what it's like out of the water?

Some fish do.

 

[we-live-now]

Some fish do.

I've seen them jump right into boats....

 

[we-live-now]

And here, everyone, is why stuff like the "Bible Code" and other such bull**** just doesn't work. Different languages have different etymologies & social conditions wherein the meaning of words come into existence & change.

So, I supposed you wouldn't believe it if I told you this?

"1" means "one" single whole with God and man and no separation
"2" means division into two due to the law being given. The law always divides and separates.
"3" means soul and Jesus (who is God's very "son" and soul) being sent below into the "natural (dead) soul" and baptized into death for the worlds salvation. The people are sent with him into (spiritual) "death" called a natural soul and "body". This is the true "Baptism of John".
"4" means the soulish Earthly kingdoms (Dan 7) and as a result man being tempted by evil (Matt "4", Luke "4")
Btw, "Matthew" is the entire spiritual point of view from the natural body of man under law (death). "Luke" is the spiritual view of the soul (3rd book) of man that is divided between "outer" (John under Satan's authority) and inner "Jesus" under God the fathers.
"Mark" is the view of spiritual man and his redemption and "John" is the missing realm we don't know called our "master Spirit" (Romans "6"). It is either Jesus (life and grace) or Satan (law and death).
"6" is man both spiritually and naturally. Naturally he is either a "beast of the field", "bird of the air", a "cattle" or part of the man NAMED "Adam" from Genesis 2:20. Please don't confuse the NAME "Adam" (Strong's 121) with the spiritual man of Genesis called "the man" (Strong's 120). One is a type (120) and one is a name of GOD himself.
"9" is upside down "6" or dead natural man "upside down" in the "ground" of the spiritual "Earth" but also the beginning of spiritual life. This is when Christ's body finally dies on the cross. In the spiritual hour of "9". This is when this current world and all people will perish but many will see eternal life. We are currently still in hour "6" of natural man outwardly, but some have moved on internally with the living "Word" within us (God's Son).
"12" is when God acts and renders judgment for his people against those who persecuted them. Many of them will be the ones we currently see as highly "religious".

1-12 repeats until ...

"24" when he joins both parts of his body (those under law and those under grace) into "one new man". Eph 2:15
"33" is the start of redemption of the single soul of all mankind.
"40" is the testing of the soul is complete and he reveals salvation to all souls
"66" is both death and life for all people in the body.

The cycle repeats.

So, I suppose you wouldn't believe any of this, huh? Ok, never mind then.

 

[Riverwolf]

So, I supposed you wouldn't believe it if I told you this?

"1" means "one" single whole with God and man and no separation
"2" means division into two due to the law being given. The law always divides and separates.
"3" means soul and Jesus (who is God's very "son" and soul) being sent below into the "natural (dead) soul" and baptized into death for the worlds salvation. The people are sent with him into (spiritual) "death" called a natural soul and "body". This is the true "Baptism of John".
"4" means the soulish Earthly kingdoms (Dan 7) and as a result man being tempted by evil (Matt "4", Luke "4")
Btw, "Matthew" is the entire spiritual point of view from the natural body of man under law (death). "Luke" is the spiritual view of the soul (3rd book) of man that is divided between "outer" (John under Satan's authority) and inner "Jesus" under God the fathers.
"Mark" is the view of spiritual man and his redemption and "John" is the missing realm we don't know called our "master Spirit" (Romans "6"). It is either Jesus (life and grace) or Satan (law and death).
"6" is man both spiritually and naturally. Naturally he is either a "beast of the field", "bird of the air", a "cattle" or part of the man NAMED "Adam" from Genesis 2:20. Please don't confuse the NAME "Adam" (Strong's 121) with the spiritual man of Genesis called "the man" (Strong's 120). One is a type (120) and one is a name of GOD himself.
"9" is upside down "6" or dead natural man "upside down" in the "ground" of the spiritual "Earth" but also the beginning of spiritual life. This is when Christ's body finally dies on the cross. In the spiritual hour of "9". This is when this current world and all people will perish but many will see eternal life. We are currently still in hour "6" of natural man outwardly, but some have moved on internally with the living "Word" within us (God's Son).
"12" is when God acts and renders judgment for his people against those who persecuted them. Many of them will be the ones we currently see as highly "religious".

1-12 repeats until ...

"24" when he joins both parts of his body (those under law and those under grace) into "one new man". Eph 2:15
"33" is the start of redemption of the single soul of all mankind.
"40" is the testing of the soul is complete and he reveals salvation to all souls
"66" is both death and life for all people in the body.

The cycle repeats.

So, I suppose you wouldn't believe any of this, huh? Ok, never mind then.

Humans are pattern-seeking animals. That means we're prone to detecting meaning in patterns, where no such meaning actually exists.

 

[we-live-now]

Humans are pattern-seeking animals. That means we're prone to detecting meaning in patterns, where no such meaning actually exists.

How can we show something doesn't exist? Look into them and see.

 

[LegionOnomaMoi]

Could they be more intimately related than we realize?

Is I.O.U the difference between "sin", "son", and "sun"?

All that time wasted with Buck, Sihler, Gamkrelidze &Ivanov, Lehmann, Baldi, Kuryłowicz, etc., and all I needed to do was check out a single website. If only I'd known historical and comparative linguistics was such a waste as some individual managed to figure out that a few words in English sound similar.

 

[Riverwolf]

How can we show something doesn't exist? Look into them and see.

I didn't say the pattern didn't exist. But there's no reason for me to believe that the meaning behind the particular pattern you're presenting is intentional.

It's effectively the Mars Face: nothing more than coincidence.

Or the jokes of a Trickster God.

 

[Nietzsche]

I didn't say the pattern didn't exist. But there's no reason for me to believe that the meaning behind the particular pattern you're presenting is intentional.

It's effectively the Mars Face: nothing more than coincidence.

Or the jokes of a Trickster God.

Loki's greatest practical joke; Grave-robbing in Palestine!

 

[viole]

(This is probably more for the person who may be a "Christian scientist")

I find these types of things very interesting... reconciling "God and science".

Today, this idea came to me and I wrote about it after pondering it for a while. What I found was amazing to me. FYI - I am a person who believes God's word is truth, but I am also a believer in science and rational thought. To me, they (will one day) fully reconcile. It is just that, not all the "sciences" and laws have "appeared" yet.

You may want to check this out if you are interested in these types of things too. I was astounded at what appeared when I was thinking of the differences between the simple words "sin", "son" and "sun".

Could they be more intimately related than we realize?

Is I.O.U the difference between "sin", "son", and "sun"?

This works only in English, I am afraid.

Ciao

- viole

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

This works only in English, I am afraid.

Ciao

- viole

Proof that God is American!

 

[columbus]

OMG!
I just found a book written by God Himself. I prayed on it and He told me it is true.

All of the vowels in the book are represented by the symbol "6".

Now we all know what "sin sun son" really means.

Unless you are freely choosing willful ignorance of God's message.

Tom

 

[Nietzsche]

So, I supposed you wouldn't believe it if I told you this?

"1" means "one" single whole with God and man and no separation
"2" means division into two due to the law being given. The law always divides and separates.
"3" means soul and Jesus (who is God's very "son" and soul) being sent below into the "natural (dead) soul" and baptized into death for the worlds salvation. The people are sent with him into (spiritual) "death" called a natural soul and "body". This is the true "Baptism of John".
"4" means the soulish Earthly kingdoms (Dan 7) and as a result man being tempted by evil (Matt "4", Luke "4")
Btw, "Matthew" is the entire spiritual point of view from the natural body of man under law (death). "Luke" is the spiritual view of the soul (3rd book) of man that is divided between "outer" (John under Satan's authority) and inner "Jesus" under God the fathers.
"Mark" is the view of spiritual man and his redemption and "John" is the missing realm we don't know called our "master Spirit" (Romans "6"). It is either Jesus (life and grace) or Satan (law and death).
"6" is man both spiritually and naturally. Naturally he is either a "beast of the field", "bird of the air", a "cattle" or part of the man NAMED "Adam" from Genesis 2:20. Please don't confuse the NAME "Adam" (Strong's 121) with the spiritual man of Genesis called "the man" (Strong's 120). One is a type (120) and one is a name of GOD himself.
"9" is upside down "6" or dead natural man "upside down" in the "ground" of the spiritual "Earth" but also the beginning of spiritual life. This is when Christ's body finally dies on the cross. In the spiritual hour of "9". This is when this current world and all people will perish but many will see eternal life. We are currently still in hour "6" of natural man outwardly, but some have moved on internally with the living "Word" within us (God's Son).
"12" is when God acts and renders judgment for his people against those who persecuted them. Many of them will be the ones we currently see as highly "religious".

1-12 repeats until ...

"24" when he joins both parts of his body (those under law and those under grace) into "one new man". Eph 2:15
"33" is the start of redemption of the single soul of all mankind.
"40" is the testing of the soul is complete and he reveals salvation to all souls
"66" is both death and life for all people in the body.

The cycle repeats.

So, I suppose you wouldn't believe any of this, huh? Ok, never mind then.

Question.

Do you know Aramaic, Hebrew & Greek?

 

[Nietzsche]

but "stud" in the sense of Sunstone is a much, much more recent addition?

I thought this was the non-fiction section!