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Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
The last couple of weeks have been exhausting, which I'm not complaining about but still prefer a rest from. I figured this thread could be a nice change from debate as well.

So, what's up? How are you faring, and what would you like to talk about? It could be anything on your mind, big or small, and it could be as detailed or as brief as you wish. This thread is for personal chatter away from all debate.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
The sky is up -- it should stay there in my view.

Temperatures are way up, not such a good thing, I think.

Water levels are up in Vermont -- maybe we should really start to think more about climate change?

At 75, not much else is "up," but I don't think that's a problem we'll be able to solve here.
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
The sky is up -- it should stay there in my view.

Temperatures are way up, not such a good thing, I think.

Water levels are up in Vermont -- maybe we should really start to think more about climate change?

At 75, not much else is "up," but I don't think that's a problem we'll be able to solve here.

A family member remarked yesterday that our city rarely got this hot in July a few decades ago. It's also pretty humid, which makes the heat a bit more uncomfortable.

I enjoyed a night out with a friend yesterday, though, and I think we infect each other with our laughter! She and I find it so easy to laugh even at many smaller things when we're together, which I regard as one sign of good company.
 

JustGeorge

Imperfect
Staff member
Premium Member
My computer's in the repair shop finally. (I'm using Ares's.) The internet speed reset.

Had a difficult conversation with a friend that's been staying with us. She's been here for close to two months now, but we're struggling with the costs of a sixth mouth to feed. We don't want her to leave. Really. But we need some help with the grocery bill, and we had to ask at a hard time.

Considering moving the puja room to another room(this would require room juggling)and offering that to her to stay in for as long as she likes, so she doesn't have to struggle to pay bills at a house she can't stay in(and is struggling to afford). But, our abode is no palace, so I'm not sure that's an option she'd want to take.
 

Ella S.

Well-Known Member
I was recently made aware of the concept of "learned helplessness" and I immediately realized that my entire ethical framework is designed to help me cope with my learned helplessness from C-PTSD.

Since virtue ethics deals with maintaining a consistent disposition, it's something that I can accept as within my control. By contrast, consequentialist ethical theories just feel hopelessly futile to me, no doubt due to my learned helplessness, and some forms of deontology do, too.

It's also easier to justify the resulting emotional detachment and psychological numbness as "dispassion" in an effort to transform what's probably pathological apathy into something more productive.

Well, "productive" is subjective. There are some people that are convinced I've jumped from being an ice queen to being a soulless monster. I can't say that I like that, but I can't please everyone. I'm just trying to do as much good as I can with the cards I have, and those cards no longer include empathy or trust in others. It's the only way I've found to keep moving forward.

I've been considering cutting contact with everyone I know and completely abandoning my internet presence to go back to the social self-isolation I was in before I joined this forum, because I think my lack of emotion has started to become a liability to those around me and that seems like it would be the ethical choice to make. I think my presence here is probably a net negative, despite my intention to learn and spread information, because I'm pretty sure my blunted emotions can lead me to come across as harsh, blunt, condescending, and dismissive, which is not conducive to productive discourse.

I've already left several other online groups and sites. I was going to leave RF quietly, too, and good riddance to me, but I've had to take some sick leave and this is the only thing I could find that hit the sweet spot between "actively engaging" and "actually have to think." I guess my reign of terror will continue for awhile. I think this forum can probably handle another social misfit, though.

Also, I had a user DM me with an invite to a forum filled with white nationalists. I have no idea what I've been doing wrong with my posts to make anyone think that's the kind of crowd I'm interested in, but I want to state that I unequivocally denounce white supremacism, ethno-nationalism, racial realism, and all similar views. I openly apologize to anyone if I've given the impression that I support any of these ideologies or haven't spoken out against them when I should have. I get that I can be unintentionally condescending and harsh, even come across as obnoxiously arrogant and prideful, but I'm not a racist. That's a line even I won't cross.
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
I'm in the midst of having the house rewired. :eek:

I'm sure the electricians probably think it should be demolished rather than them wasting their time on it. :D

Nice to have hot water back (apart from the shower, which has been my only source of hot water for over a month), the TV, and other niceties, but further expense will no doubt come when they have finished - as to redecorating and making the house more livable again. A new cooker and fridge/freezer are likely too as both showing their age. And such then wiping out any savings I have accrued. :cry:

Still, I will no doubt cope. :rolleyes:
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
I just arrived back from the UK on Sunday where i went to try and talk sense into my brother in law. He's suffering grandiose, paranoid schizophrenia and has decided he feels better without medication

So far he's sacked his psychiatrist and support team, lost his job, lost his car and i feel it won't be long before he loses his apartment. Oh yes, and earned himself an anti social behaviour order (ASBO)

So I tried to convince him to get help from the mental health crisis team and/or start taking his medication again. The failure hit me hard.

All i can do now is hope that he sees what is happening to him before he winds up homeless.
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
I'm in the midst of having the house rewired. :eek:

I'm sure the electricians probably think it should be demolished rather than them wasting their time on it. :D

Nice to have hot water back (apart from the shower, which has been my only source of hot water for over a month), the TV, and other niceties, but further expense will no doubt come when they have finished - as to redecorating and making the house more livable again. A new cooker and fridge/freezer are likely too as both showing their age. And such then wiping out any savings I have accrued. :cry:

Still, I will no doubt cope. :rolleyes:
PS They finished early and have done the job. :yum::yum:
 

Quagmire

Imaginary talking monkey
Staff member
Premium Member
because I'm pretty sure my blunted emotions can lead me to come across as harsh, blunt, condescending, and dismissive, which is not conducive to productive discourse.
I haven't noticed any of this. Could be your being too hard on yourself.

Also, I had a user DM me with an invite to a forum filled with white nationalists

I wouldn't take that personally either. It's probably just somebody who joined the site specifically to recruit people for their own site. We get that from time to time.

What they're doing is against at least two of our rules. Feel free to report them.
 

Orbit

I'm a planet
I'm doing some domestic counter-terrorism research at the moment, on online radicalization and de-radicalization. Looking at all the twisted crap that people spew gets emotionally exhausting, but I persevere. UGH.
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
The last couple of weeks have been exhausting, which I'm not complaining about but still prefer a rest from. I figured this thread could be a nice change from debate as well.

So, what's up? How are you faring, and what would you like to talk about? It could be anything on your mind, big or small, and it could be as detailed or as brief as you wish. This thread is for personal chatter away from all debate.
My son is off to King's Cross, to collect his university girlfriend to come and stay with us for a few days. She's Bengali, apparently, though her family lives in Delhi. I'll be intrigued to meet her. A sign of what a global community universities have become, these days. I'm hoping for some stimulating conversation this evening. I understand she is small and, like almost all small women in my experience, noisy. Should be amusing.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
If things go well for me I'll be getting hired at the blood center.
If not it will be disabilities for me.
 

Quagmire

Imaginary talking monkey
Staff member
Premium Member
I'm making the most of my ample solitude while I can. At some point soon I'm going to have to go to Chicago to take care of my 91 year old father and his wife. My father is one of the neediest people on the planet (always has been) and my brother is following in his footsteps so while I'm there I'm lucky if I can get 10 minutes to myself.

Both my father and my brother have this attitude, "Hey! There's a pair of ears in the house!! I have to fill those up with words!!! Really loud words!!! Mostly about how much the world sucks and how unfair life is!!!"

Fun fun. :p

So lately I'm spending almost all my time by myself and really appreciating the peace and quiet and the autonomy.

My place is surrounded by woods. Nearest neighbor is a quarter mile away, and my nearest neighbor after them is almost a mile away, and I like it this way.

I'm completely off the grid and now that the sun is shining all day everyday again (Southern California in the summertime) I'm not dependent on the outside world for anything except groceries.
 
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