So When Exactly is Jesus Coming Back?

[Rival]

So, because he didn't fulfil any of the prophecies we're told he'll come back later.

But, like, when? It's been 2.000 years already and he apparently said,

“For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and will then repay every man according to his deeds. Truly I say to you, there are some of those who are standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.“ (Matthew 16: 27, 28)

Now learn the parable from the fig tree: when its branch has already become tender and puts forth its leaves, you know that summer is near; so, you too, when you see all these things, recognize that He is near, right at the door. Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place.“ (Matthew 24: 25-34)

So, Christianity,

'Messiah comes, does nothing, dies --> is resurrected for a few days --> taken up to heaven --> comes back millennia later to fulfil the prophecies that, for no apparent reason, he couldn't fulfil the first time."

Okay.

I'm pretty sure 2.000 years is not 'a generation'.

 

[Kemosloby]

So, because he didn't fulfil any of the prophecies we're told he'll come back later.

But, like, when? It's been 2.000 years already and he apparently said,

“For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and will then repay every man according to his deeds. Truly I say to you, there are some of those who are standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.“ (Matthew 16: 27, 28)

Now learn the parable from the fig tree: when its branch has already become tender and puts forth its leaves, you know that summer is near; so, you too, when you see all these things, recognize that He is near, right at the door. Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place.“ (Matthew 24: 25-34)

So, Christianity,

'Messiah comes, does nothing, dies --> is resurrected for a few days --> taken up to heaven --> comes back millennia later to fulfil the prophecies that, for no apparent reason, he couldn't fulfil the first time."

Okay.

I'm pretty sure 2.000 years is not 'a generation'.

2070ish

 

[Fool]

So, because he didn't fulfil any of the prophecies we're told he'll come back later.

But, like, when? It's been 2.000 years already and he apparently said,

“For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and will then repay every man according to his deeds. Truly I say to you, there are some of those who are standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.“ (Matthew 16: 27, 28)

Now learn the parable from the fig tree: when its branch has already become tender and puts forth its leaves, you know that summer is near; so, you too, when you see all these things, recognize that He is near, right at the door. Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place.“ (Matthew 24: 25-34)

So, Christianity,

'Messiah comes, does nothing, dies --> is resurrected for a few days --> taken up to heaven --> comes back millennia later to fulfil the prophecies that, for no apparent reason, he couldn't fulfil the first time."

Okay.

I'm pretty sure 2.000 years is not 'a generation'.

NOW, for those who have the Name and mind of Christ


Matthew 16:28
Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.

 

[wizanda]

I'm pretty sure 2.000 years is not 'a generation'.

G1074
γενεά
genea
ghen-eh-ah'
From (a presumed derivative of) G1085; a generation; by implication an age (the period or the persons): - age, generation, nation, time.
Total KJV occurrences: 42

The specifications listed by Yeshua of 'this generation', stem from:

Matthew 23:35-36 that on you may come all the righteous blood shed on the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zachariah son of Barachiah, whom you killed between the sanctuary and the altar. (36) Most certainly I tell you, all these things will come upon this generation.

Revelation 16:6 For they poured out the blood of saints and prophets, and you have given them blood to drink. They deserve this.”

In other words the very church claiming to follow Yeshua are the ones, still in 'this generation'; God doesn't allow prophets as sin sacrifices, it isn't Kosher in the slightest.

So, because he didn't fulfil any of the prophecies

Let start this slowly, have you read the Zoroastrianism texts, and are you aware of the removal of the bloodthirsty?

Then if you are aware of that, the Biblical prophets are saying the same in multiple places with the word:

H6530
פּריץ
perı̂yts
Total KJV Occurrences: 6
robbers, 3
Jer_7:11 (2), Eze_7:22, Dan_11:14
destroyer, 1
Psa_17:4
ravenous, 1
Isa_35:9
robber, 1
Eze_18:9-10 (2)

Yet specifically Isaiah 34 - 35, Daniel 11:14 speak of the removal of the 'ravenous' beings from this realm.

So Yeshua sets the snare as stated within Isaiah 8, and Isaiah 28 to remove them with a line of righteousness.

Thus for all fulfillment of this 'age' (generation), is that our whole world is cleansed of all the unGodly.

 

[sun rise]

I don't take those words as literal but as metaphorical and symbolical.

 

[Rival]

I don't take those words as literal but as metaphorical and symbolical.

So in your opinion what is the meaning of them?

 

[Stevicus]

In addition to when, I might wonder how Jesus would come back? Would he just pop in out of nowhere? Would he suddenly show up on the TV news and announce his arrival?

Perhaps he might show up at the Vatican and appear with the Pope who would announce Jesus' return to a crowd of wildly cheering throngs. It would be Beatlemania x 1000. The whole world would go into utter pandemonium.

 

[rusra02]

I believe Jesus, during his life and ministry, actually fulfilled many of the prophecies in the Hebrew Scriptures regarding the Messiah. He told his apostles it would be a long time before he returns. (Luke 19:11,12, Matthew 25:19) As to how long before he returned, Christ spoke of "until the appointed times of the nations are fulfilled." (Luke 21:24) This scriptural period, in my opinion, extended 7 times or 2,520 years, from the destruction of Jerusalem by Babylon in 607 B.C.E. I believe the appointed times of the nations to rule ended in 1914. Since then, we have been living in the last days of this wicked system, and Jesus prophecy about his presence is being fulfilled. While no man knows the day and hour set for Christ to display his power as King, that day and hour is very near. It will catch most of mankind unawares. (Luke 21:34-36)

 

[Lorgar-Aurelian]

So, because he didn't fulfil any of the prophecies we're told he'll come back later.

But, like, when? It's been 2.000 years already and he apparently said,

“For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and will then repay every man according to his deeds. Truly I say to you, there are some of those who are standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.“ (Matthew 16: 27, 28)

Now learn the parable from the fig tree: when its branch has already become tender and puts forth its leaves, you know that summer is near; so, you too, when you see all these things, recognize that He is near, right at the door. Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place.“ (Matthew 24: 25-34)

So, Christianity,

'Messiah comes, does nothing, dies --> is resurrected for a few days --> taken up to heaven --> comes back millennia later to fulfil the prophecies that, for no apparent reason, he couldn't fulfil the first time."

Okay.

I'm pretty sure 2.000 years is not 'a generation'.

Never cause he's just another crazed cult leader who hijacked Judaism. Like a massive ****. Can't even be bothered to make up his own religion.

 

[wizanda]

who hijacked Judaism.

Yeshua didn't hijack Judaism; Christianity did.

Can't even be bothered to make up his own religion.

Yeshua did make up his own religion; within his own teachings in the Synoptic Gospels, these emphasize a unique selfless teaching, and a more advanced concept of God, etc.

 

[Skwim]

I believe Jesus, during his life and ministry, actually fulfilled many of the prophecies in the Hebrew Scriptures regarding the Messiah. He told his apostles it would be a long time before he returns. (Luke 19:11,12, Matthew 25:19) As to how long before he returned, Christ spoke of "until the appointed times of the nations are fulfilled." (Luke 21:24) This scriptural period, in my opinion, extended 7 times or 2,520 years, from the destruction of Jerusalem by Babylon in 607 B.C.E. I believe the appointed times of the nations to rule ended in 1914. Since then, we have been living in the last days of this wicked system, and Jesus prophecy about his presence is being fulfilled. While no man knows the day and hour set for Christ to display his power as King, that day and hour is very near. It will catch most of mankind unawares. (Luke 21:34-36)

Last Days that just go on, and on, and on. Gotta wonder what he's waiting for. But what I find just as interesting are all those who "knew"/"know" when he will return and have predicted as much.

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[Nietzsche]

Last Days that just go on, and on, and on. Gotta wonder what he's waiting for. But what I find just as interesting are all those who "knew"/"know" when he will return and have predicted as much.

In fairness, if it's always the last days, if he comes back, you're gonna be right!

Just remember not to stick a hard number onto it, and you'll be fine!

 

[CogentPhilosopher]

I don't take those words as literal but as metaphorical and symbolical.

Why would a deity make it intentionally confusing?

 

[sun rise]

So in your opinion what is the meaning of them?

The Bible is full of very dramatic imagery. But for most of the past 2000 years we have not had Hollywood but story telling with a strong moral as part of the story.

So when I asked myself what, for example, Matthew 24, was designed to do, it was to change how people viewed the world - that they needed to, in current terms, "clean up their acts". If I thought that tomorrow God would show up, how would I act today?

And when I think not in Hollywood terms with dramatic ending to a story, I started thinking of a more drawn out process with a longer epilogue.

Even if one is tempted to be more literal, there are other ways of interpreting parts of that verse. For example: 22 And except those days had been shortened, no flesh would have been saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. Learning about the history of the Cuban Missile Crisis, I became aware that the actions of one Soviet sub commander prevented nuclear war. This might, of course, be considered to be a stretch, but it's a possible interpretation.

 

[wizanda]

Why would a deity make it intentionally confusing?

Quick guide to the AlternatePhilosopher view: God wishes to remove the ravenous animals, thus the only way to be certain you've got them all is to lay a trap, and make it ambiguous that they all fall in.

 

[A Vestigial Mote]

From my perspective, it is all too easy to see the words said:

"...there are some of those who are standing here who will not taste death until ..."
"...this generation will not pass away until all these things take place..."

were meant literally, and likely believed (or at least faithfully hoped for). The times were simpler, and superstitions reigned mightily - it would be easy to get people to believe that the times were coming soon, and that would produce the most expedient results, and ensure the hold of people under the sway of the ideas. Does anyone honestly believe that these quotes were being spoken in riddles? Saying "a generation" and mean something completely different? Saying "not taste of death" and mean some spiritual death, or mean that some aspect of their spirituality would still be "alive" until some appointed time? I mean, if you are truly honest with yourself... are you doing anything better than making poor excuses (think "the dog ate my homework" kind of bad) for a text that, in this case, is very likely saying exactly what it meant.

 

[danieldemol]

So in your opinion what is the meaning of them?

I think there is a reasonable explanation of them here;
Some standing here shall not taste death - Mt 16(27-28)