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Some arguments for vegetarianism

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Well, I don't know. Thing is, with a large population we need some way to provide large amounts of food so that folks don't bicker too much over resources and others don't starve. So industrial agriculture (which leads to industrial slaughter for both plant and animal life) is probably more likely. Maybe inevitable is too sure a word, but it seems more likely as social animals with large populations.

Still, solving the population problem will certainly make this issue a lot easier, especially since resource wars do seem inevitable.

Good point. There's no way to feed anywhere near our present population an omnivorous diet with wild stocks, but, morality aside, the most efficient and least expensive way to feed six billion would be to adopt a primarily vegetarian diet.

Meat is rarely an economically efficient food, as it takes ten or fifteen Kilos of grain, fish meal, &c to produce a kilo of commercial meat.
Better to treat the meat as a luxury item and just consume the grain.

Grains and beans are concentrated, easily transported and need no refrigeration or special preservation, plus, a given population could be fed on much less acrerage if half the grain didn't go to meat production.
 

Kimberlee

midians mommy!
I eat some meat. but not the unclean meat that is mentioned in the Bible. I believe there were animals specifically made for us to eat and ones that were specifically made to clean up the earth (scavengers). it's not so much a religious thing just a preference of mine really.
 

Wannabe Yogi

Well-Known Member
I eat some meat. but not the unclean meat that is mentioned in the Bible. I believe there were animals specifically made for us to eat and ones that were specifically made to clean up the earth (scavengers). it's not so much a religious thing just a preference of mine really.

Are Humans made to be eaten by round worms ?
 

Kerr

Well-Known Member
I am a vegetarian, and have been it for over ten years now. Which means I started when I was about 10 and have yet to change, lol. Anyway, I could not even eat meat if I wanted. The thought is (and no disrespect to people that eat meat here) so disgusting I cannot stand it. I just can´t bring myself to eat another animal anymore. Not that I want to, I am perfectly happy with being a vegetarian :).
 

MSizer

MSizer
I heard a scientist on NPR say that its better to drive a Hummer and be a vegetarian then drive a Prius Hybrid and eat meat. When it comes to global Warming.

This is from Time magazine.

U.N. Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) concluded that worldwide livestock farming generates 18% of the planet's greenhouse gas emissions — by comparison, all the world's cars, trains, planes and boats account for a combined 13% of greenhouse gas emissions. Much of livestock's contribution to global warming come from deforestation, as the growing demand for meat results in trees being cut down to make space for pasture or farmland to grow animal feed. Livestock takes up a lot of space — nearly one-third of the earth's entire landmass. In Latin America, the FAO estimates that some 70% of former forest cover has been converted for grazing. Lost forest cover heats the planet, because trees absorb CO2 while they're alive — and when they're burned or cut down, the greenhouse gas is released back into the atmosphere.

Meat: Making Global Warming Worse - TIME

Yeah, that's the thing, many people (at least here in Canada where I live anyway) don't seem to have any clue about how much devastation cattle and swine farming does to the planet. It's worse than driving cars and failing to recyle combined, but few people seem to know that.
 

Wannabe Yogi

Well-Known Member
I eat some meat. but not the unclean meat that is mentioned in the Bible. I believe there were animals specifically made for us to eat and ones that were specifically made to clean up the earth (scavengers). it's not so much a religious thing just a preference of mine really.

The bible teaches Humans only started to eat meat after the fall of Adam and Eve. Its because of sin that people eat meat. The bible also says that there is no meat eating in heaven. The lion will lay with the lamb or the T Rex and the lamb lived in peace on noahs ark.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I eat some meat. but not the unclean meat that is mentioned in the Bible. I believe there were animals specifically made for us to eat and ones that were specifically made to clean up the earth (scavengers). it's not so much a religious thing just a preference of mine really.

What evidence do you have for these odd asssertions?:confused:

And roundworms are obviously designed as parasites? You don't know whar roundworms are. Google Nematodes.
 
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Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
The bible teaches Humans only started to eat meat after the fall of Adam and Eve. Its because of sin that people eat meat. The bible also says that there is no meat eating in heaven. The lion will lay with the lamb or the T Rex and the lamb lived in peace on noahs ark.

What will these celestial lions and T. Rexes eat, then, or will they "live off air."
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I prefer animals alive. Cows give so much of themselves. I would rather have ice cream than steak, any day.

You do realize that many dairy cows live more miserable lives than many beef cattle, don't you? -- and that they end up on your dinner plate in a few years just as surely as steers?
 
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