Some California Fast Food Businesses Raising Prices

[Pogo]

Personally paying people a living wage so they can support themselves without government aid is or should be a human right.

Those who disagree? Do you believe that people should not be able to afford medical care, live in decent housing, eat healthy food and so forth?

As far as disruptions go, we as a society need to mitigate those as part of creating a just society.

Well ability to get medical care shouldn't even be part of this equation

 

[Revoltingest]

Might simplify a whole lot of regulations as well.

For many people (liberals) they focus on
punishing business, thinking that this
will benefit society. So filled with hate.
But love for regulatoins.

 

[Pogo]

For many people (liberals) they focus on
punishing business, thinking that this
will benefit society. So filled with hate.
But love for regulatoins.

Con fus ed
UBI or multiple regulations to achieve the same?

 

[Revoltingest]

Con fus ed
UBI or multiple regulations to achieve the same?

I favor the UBI.
Imposing the burden of a living wage
on businesses won't address all in need.
Nay, it'll create even more in need.

 

[Pogo]

I favor the UBI.
Imposing the burden of a living wage
on businesses won't address all in need.
Nay, it'll create even more in need.

seems counterintuitive, why allow more UBI need?"

 

[Revoltingest]

seems counterintuitive, why allow more UBI need?"

I'm saying the liberal proposal of a high
min wage will create more need, ie, for
those who become unemployed.
The UBI would help all.

 

[Koldo]

What? reason?

?

 

[John53]

less than the differential of the wage increase which simply means that there are more people that can eat their burgers>

I don't really understand what that means. I'm taking a guess that it's not very much.

 

[Twilight Hue]

They're also reducing their staff. It's inevitable when companies are forced to pay workers more than can to remain competitive.

Not really in light of 2023 fourth quarter profit reports using McDonald's corporation as a template.

McDONALD'S REPORTS FOURTH QUARTER AND FULL YEAR 2023 RESULTS - Feb 5, 2024

mcdonalds.mediaroom.com

The increase can easily be absorbed without raising the cost of their so called food.

 

[McBell]

Personally paying people a living wage so they can support themselves without government aid is or should be a human right.

Those who disagree? Do you believe that people should not be able to afford medical care, live in decent housing, eat healthy food and so forth?

As far as disruptions go, we as a society need to mitigate those as part of creating a just society.

Do you believe it is on the employers to compensate for the greed of the medical field?

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Well most of us knew that these businesses would have to raise their prices due to the increase in wages they are being forced to pay, now it looks like it is or will happen. Are you suprised that they did? So what now Califormian?

Burger King, In-N-Out and other chain locations in California raise prices after minimum wage increase: report

Prices for burgers, fries and other fast food items have increased at various chains across California after the state minimum wage increased, per reports.

www.foxbusiness.com

Starbucks, Chipotle, McDonald's: Who's raising prices as California fast-food law starts today

Fast-food chains are looking to hike the cost of menu items because they're required to pay their employees $20 an hour starting Monday.

www.latimes.com

Just so we're all clear on what you're arguing... am I right that you're saying:

- even though similar price increases are happening all over, increases in California are insulated from all those other pressures and have their own separate cause.

- profit-driven businesses in California realized that they could increase profits by raising prices, but they wouldn't have been interested in maximizing their profits if the minimum wage hadn't been increased.

Is that right? It seems to be what you're implying.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

They're also reducing their staff. It's inevitable when companies are forced to pay workers more than can to remain competitive.

Is there a state where McDonald's isn't reducing staff?

There are states that didn't raise the minimum wage recently, but I haven't heard of any that aren't installing automated kiosks and reducing staffed cash registers.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Do you believe it is on the employers to compensate for the greed of the medical field?

Nationalization of the health care system - or at least health insurance - would be better, but until that happens: yes.

 

[tytlyf]

I favor the UBI.
Imposing the burden of a living wage
on businesses won't address all in need.
Nay, it'll create even more in need.

Raising the MW won't affect the unemployment rate.
You'll claim businesses will fire people to save profits.
The problem with that is more people will be walking through the door of the business to purchase goods.
Raising the MW boosts the economy, creates jobs, lowers crime, etc.
When people have more money in their pockets, they spend it.

 

[metis]

When people have more money in their pockets, they spend it.

Especially true of the lower-income families.

 

[PureX]

Raising the MW won't affect the unemployment rate.
You'll claim businesses will fire people to save profits.
The problem with that is more people will be walking through the door of the business to purchase goods.
Raising the MW boosts the economy, creates jobs, lowers crime, etc.
When people have more money in their pockets, they spend it.

The greedy capitalists HAVE to blame all the harm they do to everyone else on someone else. So they blame it all on the government (that they control), on "lazy" undeserving workers (that they exploit), on their "greedy" unions (that they make necessary), on the weather, on wars, on famine, and on whatever other idiotic excuse they can get past the public. But in the end it's all just the toxic stupidity and selfishness of greed being treated like it's a virtue in a system that promotes, enables, and rewards greed at every possible turn.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

The greedy capitalists HAVE to blame all the harm they do to everyone else on someone else. So they blame it all on the government (that they control), on "lazy" undeserving workers, on their "greedy" unions", on the weather, on wars, on famine, and on whatever other idiotic excuse they can get past the public. But in the end it's all just the toxic stupidity and selfishness of greed being treated like it's a virtue in a system that promotes, enables, and rewards greed at every possible turn.

It does seem strange that real estate prices in California - like many other places - are skyrocketing and also putting new financial burdens on businesses, but RF's right wing contingent never bothers to complain about that.

Somehow, when a restaurant's rent has doubled but the minimum wage went up 25%, it's only the minimum wage increase that's responsible for them raising their prices.

And when a business that owns its property closes, somehow it's never because the owner is doubling or tripling his real estate investment if he sells the property right now.

In their world, apparently there are no market forces except government regulation. Funny, that.

 

[McBell]

In their world, apparently there are no market forces except government regulation. Funny, that.

That apparently McDonalds is responsible for compensating for....

 

[Revoltingest]

Raising the MW won't affect the unemployment rate. a

There will inevitably be some jobs where
the employee becomes more costly than
they're worth. This person will lose that
job.

You'll claim businesses will fire people to save profits.

Claim?
It's done all the time.

The problem with that is more people will be walking through the door of the business to purchase goods.

Of course.
Have you no concern for those
who'll lose their jobs though?

 

[PureX]

Have you no concern for those
who'll lose their jobs though?

They're only losing half a job.

And the concern should have been why was it only half a job to begin with?