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Some Mormon missionaries tried to talk to me.

gnomon

Well-Known Member
I find it absolutely pathetic that an organization....religiously speaking.....has to go door to door.

What a weak message.

Especially given the fact that religion isn't about God but about cultural upbringing.

But hey!...........let's go solicit to upraise our own universal insecurity to rally people to a bizarre cause. Send our children on missions and measure their ability to garner new recruits........don't get me started.

Or for some funding.

Let's not overlook the utter fact that religion is an ultimately culturally tied phenomenon but these new religions have to act as the spiritual "AVON" ladies?

What a ****ing joke. This isn't about do not call lists or hanging a sign on your door. It's about the pathetic nature of missionary work in modern times.
 

Watchmen

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Bollocksing over the fact that religious missionaries are still soliciting, and so a "no soliciting" sign very much so applies to them. They're just bad at reading.

I already said missionaries should knock where there's no soliciting sign. I simply noted the difference. Once sign is more specific than the other and might help with your problem.
 

gnomon

Well-Known Member
Eh. Technically that's what we are, though.


It might (then again, if they're prone to ignore one sign...) but that's hardly the point, is it? We should not have to jump through hoops and red tape to get some peace and quiet in our own homes.

Sorry. I modified my post to denote that Frankenstein felt like she was being belittled. Sorry for my initial response and necessary correction. I meant calling people heathens in a derogatory manner as the OP expressed.
 

Kelly of the Phoenix

Well-Known Member
They're just bad at reading, I suppose.
It doesn't help that poor, poor Christians are left confused: Do we go around harassing people to get them to the Lord, which the Lord can surely do Himself, or do we keep our religious identities on the DL and not advertise ourselves overtly? Jesus said to do both things, which are diametrically opposed.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Someone made the suggestion that he post a sign saying no religious missionaries. He then referenced a general no solicitation sign. I can't help you recognize the difference.
The difference is that religious solicitors often aren't honest about what they're doing, or don't consider themselves to be solicitors.

Edit: my point is that when someone has clearly signalled to a solicitor that the solicitation is unwanted, it's completely on the solicitor if they choose to ignore this signal and knock on the door anyway.

A "no solicitors" sign should take care of any obligation that the person in the home might have to signal that they don't want proselytizers. If the proselytizer chooses to ignore the sign and knock anyway, then the proselytizer is the one who's in the wrong.
 
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The Kilted Heathen

Crow FreyjasmaðR
Only the quoted statement said "What is really disgusting is when heathens try to make fun of people who have religious beliefs" syncretic, with no indication of Heathen being used in a proper context, but as a derogatory insult.
 

Watchmen

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
The difference is that religious solicitors often aren't honest about what they're doing, or don't consider themselves to be solicitors.

Edit: my point is that when someone has clearly signalled to a solicitor that the solicitation is unwanted, it's completely on the solicitor if they choose to ignore this signal and knock on the door anyway.

A "no solicitors" sign should take care of any obligation that the person in the home might have to signal that they don't want proselytizers. If the proselytizer chooses to ignore the sign and knock anyway, then the proselytizer is the one who's in the wrong.
You're right and I've never disagreed with that. The point another poster made was to make it clear to the missionaries that they're unwanted by using a sign specifying no religious missionaries allowed on property.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
You're right and I've never disagreed with that. The point another poster made was to make it clear to the missionaries that they're unwanted by using a sign specifying no religious missionaries allowed on property.
"No solicitors" makes it clear to a reasonable person. What lengths should a person go to in order to accommodate the unreasonable?

If the proselytizer chooses to ignore a reasonable sign, greeting them with a "F*** off" is a lot cheaper than a special sign just for them, and IMO appropriate since the proselytizer has chosen to go where he ought to know he's unwanted.
 

Watchmen

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
"No solicitors" makes it clear to a reasonable person. What lengths should a person go to in order to accommodate the unreasonable?

If the proselytizer chooses to ignore a reasonable sign, greeting them with a "F*** off" is a lot cheaper than a special sign just for them, and IMO appropriate since the proselytizer has chosen to go where he ought to know he's unwanted.
Ok.
 

Prestor John

Well-Known Member
It was awkward. They never bothered with me before. Missionaries usually steer clear of me but there's usually a couple of Mormons riding the bus and walking around my area.

They noticed my Thor's Hammer pendant and asked what it was. I told them and one only thought of the damn comic book character, which made me a bit offended and is not the way to start a religious discussion with me. The other knew a bit more. Then they asked if I believe in "Norse mythology". I said yes and they tried to ask me what It's about, to me. I shut them down by telling them I wasn't interested in discussing religion. Then they tried to make small talk but I wasn't interested in that, either. Was pretty uncomfortable.

They also asked about my friend I was with,hat her name was and if she was interested in speaking with them, but she was smart enough to walk away from them in the first place and get on the phone with her mom. I soon joined her.

Strange. I am no fan of missionaries of any religion, whether it's the bigoted black Hebrew loons, Christians or Muslims. I have no plans or desire to return to any Abrahamic religion. I don't like it when they try to pretend they're interested in you as a person when they're truly not. It's so fake. Mormons are nice enough, but it's still sad, imo.
If you don't want people talking to you - don't go out in public.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I love you too!
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