Some Mormon missionaries tried to talk to me.

[Watchmen]

Their whole purpose is to enroll new tithing members in their church. They feed the revenue stream of the organization they work for. It's sales.

You’re clearly clueless on the topic. And for the record, I left the Mormon Chirch several years ago and never went back (not will I). I think I have a unique perspective of someone who has been inside and outside and doesn’t have hostility towards the Church.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

You’re clearly clueless on the topic.

What I'm saying is based on two ideas:

- missionaries try to get people to become active, ongoing members of the church.
- members of the church are generally expected to tithe.

Which of these is wrong?

 

[Vinayaka]

Ban it? Numerous court cases have upheld the constitutional right to free speech and held that door to door missionaries fall within that right.

There are more countries than the US.

 

[paarsurrey]

You’re clearly clueless on the topic. And for the record, I left the Mormon Chirch several years ago and never went back (not will I). I think I have a unique perspective of someone who has been inside and outside and doesn’t have hostility towards the Church.

And what was one's experience with the Mormon Church, please?
Regards

 

[paarsurrey]

Ban it? Numerous court cases have upheld the constitutional right to free speech and held that door to door missionaries fall within that right.

I believe it falls within the right to free speech unless one knocks a door the residents of which have expressly prohibited.

Regards

 

[Watchmen]

There are more countries than the US.

And the US has a great Constituiton and many freedoms, including free speech.

 

[Woberts]

And the US has a great Constituiton and many freedoms, including free speech.

This cracks me up every time I hear it.

 

[Katzpur]

Their whole purpose is to enroll new tithing members in their church. They feed the revenue stream of the organization they work for. It's sales.

As I already stated quite clearly, I believe we're going to have to agree to disagree on this one. But feel free to have the last word, since it's obviously very important to you.

 

[Vinayaka]

And the US has a great Constituiton and many freedoms, including free speech.

How does free speech include knocking on doors? I know if I was in a door-knocking sect, I'd be questioning its effectiveness. I think there are probably better ways these days, like large signs inviting people to attend worship. I asked the kids (missionaries) next door about effectiveness, or how often they got some sort of real engagement. The answer was 'it's rare'. Most preferred the in church' activities over the proseltizing. Maybe in foreign countries it works better. I wouldn't know.

With JWs, they will read the obituaries, and hit up people when they're the most vulnerable, when they're grieving. My dear MIL had that happen to her. It upset her a whole lot.

 

[Watchmen]

This cracks me up every time I hear it.

And why is that?

 

[Watchmen]

How does free speech include knocking on doors? I know if I was in a door-knocking sect, I'd be questioning its effectiveness. I think there are probably better ways these days, like large signs inviting people to attend worship. I asked the kids (missionaries) next door about effectiveness, or how often they got some sort of real engagement. The answer was 'it's rare'. Most preferred the in church' activities over the proseltizing. Maybe in foreign countries it works better. I wouldn't know.

With JWs, they will read the obituaries, and hit up people when they're the most vulnerable, when they're grieving. My dear MIL had that happen to her. It upset her a whole lot.

Towns have tried to “ban” door to door missionaries as you’ve suggested and the US Supreme Court has held that such laws violate the right to free speech.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Towns have tried to “ban” door to door missionaries as you’ve suggested and the US Supreme Court has held that such laws violate the right to free speech.

This in the country that invented "castle doctrine" and "stand your ground." You can kill unwanted visitors on your property, but if they're there to sell you their religion, they somehow have a right to be there.

It boggles the mind.

 

[Vinayaka]

Towns have tried to “ban” door to door missionaries as you’ve suggested and the US Supreme Court has held that such laws violate the right to free speech.

So do people respect the signs people put on their doors? On a farm or ranch you can put up a 'No trespassing' sign. I view my sign like that.

 

[Watchmen]

This in the country that invented "castle doctrine" and "stand your ground." You can kill unwanted visitors on your property, but if they're there to sell you their religion, they somehow have a right to be there.

It boggles the mind.

Stand your ground refers to a legal defense utilized against an attacker. I’m so sorry you feel so attaked by these harmless children.

 

[Watchmen]

So do people respect the signs people put on their doors? On a farm or ranch you can put up a 'No trespassing' sign. I view my sign like that.

Cool

 

[Watchmen]

What I'm saying is based on two ideas:

- missionaries try to get people to become active, ongoing members of the church.
- members of the church are generally expected to tithe.

Which of these is wrong?

Your suggestion that this is the missionaries’ motivation.

 

[Katzpur]

Your suggestion that this is the missionaries’ motivation.

Not only that, but of what benefit is it to the missionaries if their Church gains more active, tithe-paying members? Absolutely none. Do they get some kind of commission? Of course not. Do they get special recognition for baptizing more people than the next guy? Not at all. Any implication that they personally benefit in any way, shape or form from having baptized a lot of people is utter nonsense. And if there is no benefit to them, then there simply has to be some other reason why they even serve. This is a matter of logic. I can genuinely understand why people are not at all happy to answer their front door to find a couple of Mormon missionaries standing on their front porch, but to channel one's irritation into completely illogical accusations is just plain stupid.