They might not be there to learn,
but they can be tricked into it.
We each do what calls to us.
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Some Mormon missionaries tried to talk to me.
- Thread starter Saint Frankenstein
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but they can be tricked into it.
We each do what calls to us.
@Saint Frankenstein Mormonism is a cult, I was formerly involved in the LDS church a while back. I was so raised confusingly about my Faith's in general. The LDS Church in general is a business church. Mormon Missionaries are trained to convert people in a salesman like manner. My reason for leaving the Mormon Church in general was due to disagreement of beliefs, I never really liked the way they represented Lucifer as I have always viewed him as the bringer of light of knowledge and wisdom. After I left the LDS church my neighbors and the people that I knew would never talk to me again. From what I have heard is that Mormons in accordance with Temple rules are told to not talk to apostates. My dad actually Introduced me to Mormonism when I was very little, it was even so confusing at the same time when I was raised Christan and have gone to a Fundamentalist Christian school. However over time when I was introduced to the occult and Satanism in general my mind became more so aware than those who follow the mainstream Religions of the Abrahamic Faith in general who are told what to do as followers than individualists. I find Mormonism to be Repressive in a sense just like Islam you might not fully agree with me on it, but this is just my analogy of it. But my other reason for leaving the Church was due to the fact that many youths my age in general we're taught and told to convert others by introducing them to their "religion." I simply regard this as manipulation of Proselytizing which goes against my own codes of conduct in general. Mormonism today is very confusing, they oftenly mix some christian teachings and Mormon teachings all together. My dad who was an old school Mormon told me that Traditionally Mormonism was centered around it's founder Joseph Smith. I've heard that the Church is covering it's original history of the decades that have went on for years. The current LDS church in my opinion has become corrupt like other Organized Religions in general.
Callisto
Hellenismos, BTW
That could change.One of the perks of living in the country, no more missionaries! The worst we get anymore are FFA kids selling fruit.
Well, I was kidding mostly, but if someone where to do this, I think the point would be more to hold up a mirror than to actually try and convert someone.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
It's been awhile since I've ran into any missionaries (usually Mormon or JW around here). The last ones I did encounter, pretty much everything I told them about the Bible they had no idea it's in there. They tried to say "this is what the Bible says about such and such," but where they couldn't really provide a book/chapter/verse citation of what the Bible says, I could fill them in with usually at least a book/chapter reference of what the Bible actually does say about "x" and "y," rather than what they tried to piece together and cherry pick that it says.
As for the Mormons, I do think it's weird seeing someone running around who is younger than me with "Elder" printed on their name tag.
As for the Mormons, I do think it's weird seeing someone running around who is younger than me with "Elder" printed on their name tag.
Grumpuss
Active Member
We are all God's children. Different denominations and sects of the same religion all deserve equal compassion. Getting consumed in the things that make us different, rather than the things that make us the same, is a sure path to conflict.
Mormons are simply another type of Christian. They are kind and hardworking, and more committed to charity than most others, in my experience.
Anyone so xenophobic that they become fearful or haughty towards pleasant, young, well-dressed missionaries is frankly disturbing.
Matthew 12:50, "For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother."
Mormons are simply another type of Christian. They are kind and hardworking, and more committed to charity than most others, in my experience.
Anyone so xenophobic that they become fearful or haughty towards pleasant, young, well-dressed missionaries is frankly disturbing.
Matthew 12:50, "For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother."
Those differences are the whole reason there are missionaries at all.
Evangelism is not pleasant or respectful, even if it's done with a smile and polite-sounding words.
Grumpuss
Active Member
And heathens and lost souls. Missionaries are not sinister or evil in intent. There was a time when colonialism was co-mingled with religion to some degree, but those days are hundreds of years in the past.
There is nothing wrong with evangelism or missionary work. If you live in a country where freedom to practice a religion is a protected right, then great. If you want to live in a country where religious expression is outlawed, then I shall pray for you.
I love all my fellow God-fearing Christians, Mormons included.
Even those that practice Satanism subscribe to an ethos. Are we truly so close-minded that we are unable to listen to a myriad of opinion?
Katzpur
Not your average Mormon
Those who have been to one of our temples do. But they aren't "magic" any more than the Jewish Tallit Katan is. It's simply worn to serve as a reminder of the promises we make to the Lord in the temple.
Apparently the experience was not a pleasant one for him, so yes, I'm sorry he had to have it.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Have you ever considered it may have something to do with the patronizing "I know better than you" attitude displayed by many missionaries? Or maybe that they seem so surprised when you can bring your own material to the discussion? Or that they begin the conversation with the assumption that if you don't believe as they do then you are wrong and in need of being saved? Even missionary kids I have noticed sometimes talk to adults like the adults are children and they are the grown up.
... the determination of which is based on differences in beliefs and practices.
I didn't say evil; I said disrespectful. And it most certainly is.
The evangelist's attitude of "without even knowing what you believe or why, your beliefs are wrong wherever they disagree with mine, and you need to throw away your beliefs and adopt mine instead" is inherently disrepectful to the evangelizee.
Even an ethical salesperson tries to meet his customer's actual needs and create mutual benefit. The evangelist's approach is more like that of a shady used car salesman's: no matter what your needs, he's going to tell you that they're met perfectly by the one car on his lot that he just happens to need to move.
Not true at all, actually. There are plenty of proselytizers still trying to continue colonial attitudes in former colonies.
That varies greatly. Some evangelism gets packaged with actual charity, some is relatively benign in its own right, and some is downright harmful.
If that ever happens, I'd prefer you did something that would have a real impact instead.
Apparently not in the world you're asking for, where only positive opinions of missionaries are allowed.I love all my fellow God-fearing Christians, Mormons included.
Even those that practice Satanism subscribe to an ethos. Are we truly so close-minded that we are unable to listen to a myriad of opinion?
Grumpuss
Active Member
None of us is perfect. It is a vile sin to pretend that we know every answer that matters and never need to hear alternative views.
"Patronizing" is an interesting way to put it. Of course, you're welcome to invite Mormons into your house and to explain your own faith. It is always compassionate for people to listen to each other.
Not every salesman is a charlatan, not every stranger an enemy.
And not every non-believer needs your religion.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
If I pretended otherwise I wouldn't be agnostic. Missionaries are the ones pretending to know what I need to know and hear and do.
They already took it upon themselves to invite themselves to my back door and take up my time talking about something I have absolutely no interests in. It's on par with getting phone calls from companies advertising, except it's easier to get rid of and ignore telemarketing.
I remember Koko B Ware!None of us is perfect. It is a vile sin to pretend that we know every answer that matters and never need to hear alternative views.
"Patronizing" is an interesting way to put it. Of course, you're welcome to invite Mormons into your house and to explain your own faith. It is always compassionate for people to listen to each other.
Not every salesman is a charlatan, not every stranger an enemy.
It's funny you mention this. I've had Mormons vist ages ago. Once they knew my religion they never came back. I think they have been instructed not to speak with certain religions as they might get infected with the devil,
I invite them in and tell them all about my religion and they've never come back in years. They must know we can't be changed so they don't bother trying.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Does anyone who was a wrestling fan between the mid/late 80s and early/mid 90s not remember Koko?
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
I could be wrong, but I think this might be a Freudian slip.