Some of my ideas on various topics...

[outhouse]

You quoted that out from "Second Coming of Jesus Christ," in context

Where did I ever quote that?

You're asking for scientific evidence on a non-scientific topic

Sorry you turned it into a scientific and historical topic when you made your unsubstantiated claims about adam and eve being created around the time of Homo Hablis

Context. Learn it.

I study history and science, and religion. I know all of these topics in context, and would like to help you understand them.

But if you make historical and scientific statements, and then deny them, I don't know how I can help.

 

[outhouse]

Adam and Eve were just new creatures he was satisfied with unlike the prototypes.

Your god makes mistakes and has to practice to get it right?

 

[Slaedi7324]

Where did I ever quote that?

You don't even know anything about the sources that you're quoting to back up your arguments? O God... here they are: "Second Coming of Jesus Christ: I only believe that the Second Coming of Christ wouldn't happen because it has already happened. This is where I am feeling undecided and have two conflicting hypotheses that I feel makes little sense to each other, very poorly supported and I am in confusion, which kind of conclusion I am looking for here, still studying to find out the truthful hypothesis. But I will present to you them both now in their incomplete forms."

Sorry you turned it into a scientific and historical topic when you made your unsubstantiated claims about adam and eve being created around the time of Homo Hablis

Why don't you quote from "Miracles" instead then? For Christ's sake, you're a slow one. On that topic, that would be a fact as it is substantiated, it was written Quran to have been around that time they were created. You're confused, what exactly don't you understand of that general fact?

I study history and science, and religion. I know all of these topics in context, and would like to help you understand them.

Yet, you aren't good at quoting comments in context.

But if you make historical and scientific statements, and then deny them, I don't know how I can help.

I haven't denied anything, you are confused about something. Elaborate on that and tell me why this weren't possible.

Your god makes mistakes and has to practice to get it right?

From where did that point come from? That wasn't even remotely what I said. Interpret it in the correct phrase.

 

[outhouse]

, it was written Quran to have been around that time they were created.

Provide a source for this. Show us the exact text that states Homo Hablis existed then

 

[outhouse]

Adam and Eve were created during the time of Homo habilis

Your not making a credible case for this to have happened.

Why does not one credible scientist in the whole world, state this is true?

 

[Slaedi7324]

Provide a source for this. Show us the exact text that states Homo Hablis existed then

One day in Garden of Eden is 50,000 years. Adam and Eve would have been in Heaven for a great couple of days, let's say 50 days, that would have been from Homo habilis to current humans. That is more than 2.5 million years on Earth. That is proof.

Your not making a credible case for this to have happened.

Why does not one credible scientist in the whole world, state this is true?

Because scientists aren't religious academics, did I claim this is accepted or should be accepted by science? I am speaking about history here and my thoughts to them.

 

[outhouse]

One day in Garden of Eden is 50,000 years.

Says who?

. Adam and Eve would have been in Heaven for a great couple of days, let's say 50 days, that would have been from Homo habilis to current humans. That is more than 2.5 million years on Earth. That is proof.

That is not proof of anything

Because scientists aren't religious academics

Are you one?

You mean biased apologist ?

Do biased religious academics have more knowledge then the findings of all scientist put together as a collective?

did I claim this is accepted or should be accepted by science?

You are making scientific claims about the past.

I am speaking about history here and my thoughts to them.

Yes, making scientific and historical claims you cannot substantiate.

 

[Slaedi7324]

Says who?

Sura 70:4.

That is not proof of anything

Yes, it is. Of what kind of proof are you expecting from me? Because it seems like that you think I am stating something entirely differently from what I am actually stating. That proves my point, you wished a point to prove my point. I gave you one.

Are you one?

Straw man claim. I didn't state that I ever were. But I am a historian by hobby. I know fairly well.

You mean biased apologist ?

Not at all. I follow reason.

Do biased religious academics have more knowledge then the findings of all scientist put together as a collective?

What the hell does that have to do with anything? Who even implies this. I am talking about HISTORY! NOT SCIENCE! Get it now?

You are making scientific claims about the past.

Partially. I am making historical claims about the past. Not scientific.

Yes, making scientific and historical claims you cannot substantiate.

I clearly substantiated them. Your petty brain simply don't understand.

Is your first language English? If not, that might be the reason for your confusion on what I am saying.

 

[outhouse]

What the hell does that have to do with anything? Who even implies this. I am talking about HISTORY! NOT SCIENCE! Get it now?

Really? how honest is that?

If you had ever been wondered about Adam and Eve and how it fits to the current scientific consensus on the human world, such as evolution, I can easily answer that point.

 

[Slaedi7324]

You're a lost cause, my friend. You're confused. I recommend reading comprehension.

 

[outhouse]

You're a lost cause, my friend. You're confused. I recommend reading comprehension.

It takes no comprehensive skills to see someone trying to create his own apologetic version of history and science, perverting both due to religious belief, not religious knowledge.

 

[Sha'irullah]

I guess the elephant in the room nobody is mentioning is, "who in their right mind cares."
People can believe all sorts of things and this is fine but it exits the realm of sanity it becomes an issue of mass concern. Having been both a Christian and a Muslim I can't guess which is worst. I guess neither of them are bad if you don't follow them seriously and just make it up as you go along

 

[Slaedi7324]

It takes no comprehensive skills to see someone trying to create his own apologetic version of history and science, perverting both due to religious belief, not religious knowledge.

The fact that you read my posts as this proves you need to learn to read again. Your reading comprehension is lacking and you quotes out of context, which proves your lack of reading comprehension. I pity you.

 

[outhouse]

You still have not demonstrated any possibility of adam and eve existing around Homo Hablis

 

[Slaedi7324]

I have, but you have willfully ignored it by now, which is why I have realized to continue discussing with you is an exercise in futility.

 

[outhouse]

I have,

You have not demonstrated any possibility, only biased religious text with your own personal interpreted not supported by one credible person.

 

[outhouse]

I have realized to continue discussing with you is an exercise in futility.

Because I require more then opinion to change credible historical knowledge?

 

[Slaedi7324]

That is nothing more but your opinion to call it for "biased" when it was perfectly impartial. As I have already told you, I suspect that you have misunderstood everything I have to say, did you even read the thread wholly? I clearly say these are my ideas, not me stating facts.

Because I require more then opinion to change credible historical knowledge?

I love how you misuse the term "credible," how are you able to call the Adam and Eve story for a credible historical knowledge? Elaborate.

 

[outhouse]

how are you able to call the Adam and Eve story for a credible historical knowledge?

Credible posits that it is mythology, plagiarized by many different cultures and multiple religions.

I clearly say these are my ideas, not me stating facts.

Honesty is important.

You contradict the above reply with your OP as seen below.

If you had ever been wondered about Adam and Eve and how it fits to the current scientific consensus on the human world, such as evolution, I can easily answer that point.

 

[Slaedi7324]

This is my last response to you. As I said, discussing with you is an exercise in futility.