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Some tips

@Rival posted a list of tips but these are fake news because she is a paid operative of Putin charged with weakening RF's ability to influence vital global policy discussions and solve humanity's greatest problems. To combat this misinformation, I have compiled a list of more valuable insights to keep RF on it's righteous path and welcome further additions from anyone who isn't actually a Russian troll farm.

1. Read the OP. Read it all. Then read it again.

Don't bother to read the OP, it's a waste of time. Either it says what you want it to say, in which case you didn't need to read it, or it doesn't say what you want it to say, in which case it is a strawman.

2. You're frustrated? Write the response that, in your frustration, you want to say - then delete it, take a breather, and compose a more civil response without the caps and the exclamation marks.

If you are frustrated because your discussion is as satisfying as arguing with a gastropod, write the response that, in your frustration, you want to say - then delete it; it's silly and it's juvenile. Take a breather, now write a response that is more fitting, one which is so darkly contemptuous that it actually absorbs light. Make sure to use caps, exclamation marks and 324 consecutive :facepalm: emojis.

Be very quiet after you hit reply and you may actually be able to hear your opponent's anguish at being so thoroughly pimp slapped.

3. Don't feel forced to respond. If something has been going in a circle, drop it. You've not 'lost' by not responding to the latest attack, it just didn't deserve a reply.

Not lost??? If you don't reply, then your opponent will know for certain that they owned you and you automatically become their *****.

Don't be a :cat:, hit back by repeating what you said earlier, although this time with added insults. If you don't do this then your opponent will undoubtedly partake in a victory triumph more glorious than that of Caesar when he returned from conquering the Gauls. You can't give them that satisfaction surely? Where's your self-respect?

4. Consider that your opponent may actually be right, even just about some things. I know, I know, fat chance, right?

Consider that not only is your opponent wrong, but the fact that they disagree with you is likely evidence of mendacity, bias, great stupidity and some form of mental illness.

Calling them out for these is a valuable public service and will earn you 'winner' ratings from people who agreed with you before the thread started. 'Winner' ratings from people who agreed with you before the thread started should be interpreted as incontrovertible evidence that you won the debate with your ferocious intellect.

5. Read through your own response. Is any of it vague? Have you listed your sources?

Read through your own response. Is any of it vague? Good, when your enemy misinterprets it this will be great evidence of their mendacity, bias, great stupidity and some form of mental illness.

Now make your OP so long that you have to break it up into 27 individual posts and you can win every argument by saying 'OMG can't you read or something, I've already answered that.'.

Don't bother with sources as whoever wrote them is obviously not as intelligent as you so they would only reduce your credibility. If your opponent uses sources then just accuse them of 'copy pasting' in lieu of an argument and understand that having to read about something before forming an airtight opinion on an issue is a sign of a feeble mind.

Or worse: are you actually trying to convince yourself, rather than your opponent?

:unamused:

I don't get this. Why would anyone need to convince themselves that they were right? The purpose of RF is to know you are right and convince your opponent that not only are they wrong, they are also less intelligent than a gibbon.

6. How many times have you used 'I' in your response? Your opponent isn't interested in you, s/he's interested in what and why, generally. Present the argument, the sources and the conclusion. A sound argument shouldn't really be dependent upon you, how you feel and your beliefs; this isn't really going to convince anyone. This is not to say that one should never use 'I', but just make sure it's relevent.

How many times have you used 'I' in your argument? If your opponent still refuses to believe what you have told them repeatedly is objectively true based on your subjective experience then simply point out that this makes them anti-science. This not only proves that you are right, but also proves that, not only is your opponent wrong about this, but they are also wrong about everything else too.

In this case the best thing to do is to insult them egregiously then smugly inform them that you are putting them on ignore.

This is an automatic win because if they reply then they are irrationally shouting into a void which makes them delusional, and if they don't reply then that means they couldn't defeat your logic and cravenly admitted defeat.

Bask in the glow of a conquest as magnificent as that of Alexander the Great, but remember while he wept when he realised there were no lands left to conquer, there will always be another person who is wrong on the internet for you to school.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
I think it's helpful to bear in mind this is RF, that very few people are here to discuss, let alone learn, and rightfully so. "For it is far better to give opinions than to receive opinions", as the sages tell us.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
I think it's helpful to bear in mind this is RF, that very few people are here to discuss, let alone learn, and rightfully so. "For it is far better to give opinions than to receive opinions", as the sages tell us.
In this case, since you agree with me, you are right. This time. We'll see what the future brings.
 

Rival

Diex Aie
Staff member
Premium Member
I actually didn't read the whole OP because it called me a russian troll farm when everyone knows this isn't true!!! The OP is just being DISHONEST and using AD HUMS against me! I'm NOT part of a 'russian troll farm', Im actually part of a cyber troll farm. His OP is RACIST and anyone who disagrees with me is obviously a racist too. And no, I DON'T need to give you any sauces because it's obvious that the OP is a liar :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
As a wise maxim to live by, "One should always seek to nobly conduct oneself in affairs of the net as if it were true that internet arguments can be won."
 
I think it's helpful to bear in mind this is RF, that very few people are here to discuss, let alone learn, and rightfully so. "For it is far better to give opinions than to receive opinions", as the sages tell us.

There is no greater gift to bestow upon someone than the gift of knowledge. You'd think some folk would be more grateful to learn how ignorant and intellectually inferior they are as it means they can receive this gift on even more occasions. They also aren't even in the slightest bit embarrassed about taking all of the time and never giving in return without even a hint of an apology.

No pleasing some people... :shrug:
 

Earthling

David Henson
@Rival posted a list of tips but these are fake news because she is a paid operative of Putin charged with weakening RF's ability to influence vital global policy discussions and solve humanity's greatest problems. To combat this misinformation, I have compiled a list of more valuable insights to keep RF on it's righteous path and welcome further additions from anyone who isn't actually a Russian troll farm.



Don't bother to read the OP, it's a waste of time. Either it says what you want it to say, in which case you didn't need to read it, or it doesn't say what you want it to say, in which case it is a strawman.



If you are frustrated because your discussion is as satisfying as arguing with a gastropod, write the response that, in your frustration, you want to say - then delete it; it's silly and it's juvenile. Take a breather, now write a response that is more fitting, one which is so darkly contemptuous that it actually absorbs light. Make sure to use caps, exclamation marks and 324 consecutive :facepalm: emojis.

Be very quiet after you hit reply and you may actually be able to hear your opponent's anguish at being so thoroughly pimp slapped.




Not lost??? If you don't reply, then your opponent will know for certain that they owned you and you automatically become their *****.

Don't be a :cat:, hit back by repeating what you said earlier, although this time with added insults. If you don't do this then your opponent will undoubtedly partake in a victory triumph more glorious than that of Caesar when he returned from conquering the Gauls. You can't give them that satisfaction surely? Where's your self-respect?



Consider that not only is your opponent wrong, but the fact that they disagree with you is likely evidence of mendacity, bias, great stupidity and some form of mental illness.

Calling them out for these is a valuable public service and will earn you 'winner' ratings from people who agreed with you before the thread started. 'Winner' ratings from people who agreed with you before the thread started should be interpreted as incontrovertible evidence that you won the debate with your ferocious intellect.



Read through your own response. Is any of it vague? Good, when your enemy misinterprets it this will be great evidence of their mendacity, bias, great stupidity and some form of mental illness.

Now make your OP so long that you have to break it up into 27 individual posts and you can win every argument by saying 'OMG can't you read or something, I've already answered that.'.

Don't bother with sources as whoever wrote them is obviously not as intelligent as you so they would only reduce your credibility. If your opponent uses sources then just accuse them of 'copy pasting' in lieu of an argument and understand that having to read about something before forming an airtight opinion on an issue is a sign of a feeble mind.



:unamused:

I don't get this. Why would anyone need to convince themselves that they were right? The purpose of RF is to know you are right and convince your opponent that not only are they wrong, they are also less intelligent than a gibbon.



How many times have you used 'I' in your argument? If your opponent still refuses to believe what you have told them repeatedly is objectively true based on your subjective experience then simply point out that this makes them anti-science. This not only proves that you are right, but also proves that, not only is your opponent wrong about this, but they are also wrong about everything else too.

In this case the best thing to do is to insult them egregiously then smugly inform them that you are putting them on ignore.

This is an automatic win because if they reply then they are irrationally shouting into a void which makes them delusional, and if they don't reply then that means they couldn't defeat your logic and cravenly admitted defeat.

Bask in the glow of a conquest as magnificent as that of Alexander the Great, but remember while he wept when he realised there were no lands left to conquer, there will always be another person who is wrong on the internet for you to school.

I thought I detected the smell of burning martyr.
 

Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
Augustus, you forgot a key ingredient!

In addition to implying those who disagree with you suffer from bias, mental illness, dishonesty, ignorance, or stupidity, you have to offer to cure them from their condition. Tell them you can help them overcome their ignorance, that you can educate them if they are willing. You are their ray of hope! You are the way, the light, the life!

Oh, and if they aren't willing to be indoctri... uh... educated by you, go back to just insulting them as ignorant, dishonest, or mentally ill.
 

Daemon Sophic

Avatar in flux
@Rival posted a list of tips but these are fake news because she is a paid operative of Putin charged with weakening RF's ability to influence vital global policy discussions and solve humanity's greatest problems. To combat this misinformation, I have compiled a list of more valuable insights to keep RF on it's righteous path and welcome further additions from anyone who isn't actually a Russian troll farm.



Don't bother to read the OP, it's a waste of time. Either it says what you want it to say, in which case you didn't need to read it, or it doesn't say what you want it to say, in which case it is a strawman.



If you are frustrated because your discussion is as satisfying as arguing with a gastropod, write the response that, in your frustration, you want to say - then delete it; it's silly and it's juvenile. Take a breather, now write a response that is more fitting, one which is so darkly contemptuous that it actually absorbs light. Make sure to use caps, exclamation marks and 324 consecutive :facepalm: emojis.

Be very quiet after you hit reply and you may actually be able to hear your opponent's anguish at being so thoroughly pimp slapped.



Not lost??? If you don't reply, then your opponent will know for certain that they owned you and you automatically become their *****.

Don't be a :cat:, hit back by repeating what you said earlier, although this time with added insults. If you don't do this then your opponent will undoubtedly partake in a victory triumph more glorious than that of Caesar when he returned from conquering the Gauls. You can't give them that satisfaction surely? Where's your self-respect?



Consider that not only is your opponent wrong, but the fact that they disagree with you is likely evidence of mendacity, bias, great stupidity and some form of mental illness.

Calling them out for these is a valuable public service and will earn you 'winner' ratings from people who agreed with you before the thread started. 'Winner' ratings from people who agreed with you before the thread started should be interpreted as incontrovertible evidence that you won the debate with your ferocious intellect.



Read through your own response. Is any of it vague? Good, when your enemy misinterprets it this will be great evidence of their mendacity, bias, great stupidity and some form of mental illness.

Now make your OP so long that you have to break it up into 27 individual posts and you can win every argument by saying 'OMG can't you read or something, I've already answered that.'.

Don't bother with sources as whoever wrote them is obviously not as intelligent as you so they would only reduce your credibility. If your opponent uses sources then just accuse them of 'copy pasting' in lieu of an argument and understand that having to read about something before forming an airtight opinion on an issue is a sign of a feeble mind.



:unamused:

I don't get this. Why would anyone need to convince themselves that they were right? The purpose of RF is to know you are right and convince your opponent that not only are they wrong, they are also less intelligent than a gibbon.



How many times have you used 'I' in your argument? If your opponent still refuses to believe what you have told them repeatedly is objectively true based on your subjective experience then simply point out that this makes them anti-science. This not only proves that you are right, but also proves that, not only is your opponent wrong about this, but they are also wrong about everything else too.

In this case the best thing to do is to insult them egregiously then smugly inform them that you are putting them on ignore.

This is an automatic win because if they reply then they are irrationally shouting into a void which makes them delusional, and if they don't reply then that means they couldn't defeat your logic and cravenly admitted defeat.

Bask in the glow of a conquest as magnificent as that of Alexander the Great, but remember while he wept when he realised there were no lands left to conquer, there will always be another person who is wrong on the internet for you to school.
Thank you for being among the few who recognize the truth.

A question though, about internet manners: To announce in one’s OP that any and all who disagree with you are racist intellectual inferiors; is a given. But after how many back-and-forth attempts at enlightening said slabs of meat should one wait before correctly declaring that they are nazis, and “as bad as Hitler”?
 
A question though, about internet manners: To announce in one’s OP that any and all who disagree with you are racist intellectual inferiors; is a given. But after how many back-and-forth attempts at enlightening said slabs of meat should one wait before correctly declaring that they are nazis, and “as bad as Hitler”?

Well seeing as disagreeing with you automatically makes them worse than Hitler from the get go, there's no real obstacle to whipping it out in your first reply.

Sometimes though, it is more satisfying to lull them into a false sense of security where they think no one has noticed their Hitlerific tendencies, then casually deliver the coup-de-grace just when they think they are getting the upper hand.
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
@Augustus ... while I thought your OP was clearly a case of #winning, I was both confused and worried that so many people gave your post a rating of 'Funny' when it was clearly poignant and aimed with surgical precision. I suspect it's the trollish masses making sarcastic comment.

My advice is to stay strong. I've commonly had to deal with people thinking I'm wrong. Whilst I could listen to the overwhelming preponderance of evidence and opinion, I instead take the higher ground, refusing to bow to the mouth-breathing masses of ignorance disagreeing with me.

At times these peasants have gone as far as to provide hard evidence as to why I am wrong. Whilst this evidence is clearly fabricated (simple logic proves this...) at times it has been amazingly comprehensive. A lesser person would be fooled by this. Much like you, I've managed to rise above this.

Keep up the good work, you're a voice of reason amongst a sea of...errr...not reason. At least until we disagree.
 

Rival

Diex Aie
Staff member
Premium Member
...I asked Augustus to make this thread and it still makes me laugh :tearsofjoy:
 
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