Some women liked being objectified

[Epic Beard Man]

Feminists such as the likes of Catherine Mackinnon and Dworkin often argue that patriarchy is the root of all misogyny and objectification, but I believe in some instances women are often times the cause of their own objectification. Some hardcore feminists would argue that in all instances women are absolved from blame of being objectified. I think sometimes we forget we live in a bizarro world where the deplorable is sometimes the beautiful and exquisite. For example, some psycho-biologist would argue that women who love men with power and money could be the result of some primordial rewiring in the brain due to the survival instinct. Men with money equals a man with resources, a man with resources equals livability of the genes and the continuation of the DNA.

I use the following example:

Spoiler: Viewer discretion advised

Floyd Mayweather iis a great boxer but a horrible representation of a gentleman, but a great example of misogyny. In several videos aside form this one, this woman sits idle while she is being describe by Floyd who it has come out that he recently has impregnated her. What is problematic is she has no issue because she is a woman who is well off. She is pregnant and what that means is she will for the next 18 years have money. It is sad that in the United States when women get pregnant the unborn child is seen as a "cash cow" in the zeitgeist of American capitalist society. Some women more often than not, will exchange their dignity for fame and fortune and will submerge their self-worth for self-profit.

Money indeed does matter to women and many in the United States will sacrifice their value for it..

A great example where dignity is exchanged for fame and fortune see no further than Donald Trump: Would Melania be with such a man if he had no money or fame? Would Melania be with Donald Trump the mechanic?

 

[ADigitalArtist]

Like all equality issues, from gender to sex to race to disability and onward, there will be examples of people complicit or encouraging of a system or behaviors which are problematic for them. Either due to social pressures, internalized rationalizations of said system, fear of opposing said system or individuals who could cause them harm, and onward. But when we see, for example, a person in an abusive relationship or job who stays there, we usually try to encourage them to get help getting away or remove the abuse. We don't say "they like being abused." Even if they appear to welcome said abuse (as is common in cases with people who grew up in abusive environments. The abuse is 'a sign their abuser cares.') I'm not likening the relationships you mentioned as being abusive, just using abusive relationships as an example of where you think problematic behavior should be rejected by the abused, but isn't due to much more complex mental, emotional, physical and financial concerns.

 

[Orbit]

I find it hard to relate to such extreme examples.

 

[YmirGF]

I find it hard to relate to such extreme examples.

You and me both. The feminist and neocon agree.
*rushes outside to see the blue moon*

 

[Rational Agnostic]

Feminists such as the likes of Catherine Mackinnon and Dworkin often argue that patriarchy is the root of all misogyny and objectification, but I believe in some instances women are often times the cause of their own objectification. Some hardcore feminists would argue that in all instances women are absolved from blame of being objectified. I think sometimes we forget we live in a bizarro world where the deplorable is sometimes the beautiful and exquisite. For example, some psycho-biologist would argue that women who love men with power and money could be the result of some primordial rewiring in the brain due to the survival instinct. Men with money equals a man with resources, a man with resources equals livability of the genes and the continuation of the DNA.

I use the following example:

Spoiler: Viewer discretion advised

Floyd Mayweather iis a great boxer but a horrible representation of a gentleman, but a great example of misogyny. In several videos aside form this one, this woman sits idle while she is being describe by Floyd who it has come out that he recently has impregnated her. What is problematic is she has no issue because she is a woman who is well off. She is pregnant and what that means is she will for the next 18 years have money. It is sad that in the United States when women get pregnant the unborn child is seen as a "cash cow" in the zeitgeist of American capitalist society. Some women more often than not, will exchange their dignity for fame and fortune and will submerge their self-worth for self-profit.

Money indeed does matter to women and many in the United States will sacrifice their value for it..

A great example where dignity is exchanged for fame and fortune see no further than Donald Trump: Would Melania be with such a man if he had no money or fame? Would Melania be with Donald Trump the mechanic?

It's true that some women like being objectified. However, there is a clear line between this type of "objectification" and abuse. If a woman consents to it, it's not abuse. If she doesn't consent to it, then it's abuse and it is absolutely wrong.

 

[sun rise]

It's true that some women like being objectified. However, there is a clear line between this type of "objectification" and abuse. If a woman consents to it, it's not abuse. If she doesn't consent to it, then it's abuse and it is absolutely wrong.

It's analogous to mansplaining:

 

[Revoltingest]

It's analogous to mansplaining:

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Dang....it would appear that mansplaining is an essential part of being an employer.

 

[David T]

It's analogous to mansplaining:

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I think that's far to simple it has to be even more rube Goldberg. And so I need a cartoon instead of a flow chart because these darn charts is so so so Like work

 

[David T]

Like all equality issues, from gender to sex to race to disability and onward, there will be examples of people complicit or encouraging of a system or behaviors which are problematic for them. Either due to social pressures, internalized rationalizations of said system, fear of opposing said system or individuals who could cause them harm, and onward. But when we see, for example, a person in an abusive relationship or job who stays there, we usually try to encourage them to get help getting away or remove the abuse. We don't say "they like being abused." Even if they appear to welcome said abuse (as is common in cases with people who grew up in abusive environments. The abuse is 'a sign their abuser cares.') I'm not likening the relationships you mentioned as being abusive, just using abusive relationships as an example of where you think problematic behavior should be rejected by the abused, but isn't due to much more complex mental, emotional, physical and financial concerns.

That's a forum violation it's very well
Constructed and nuanced. I am filing a complaint.

 

[Jumi]

There are lots of women men who like being objectified to an extent. Take it away from them and they're miserable. I think it's an issue with various cultures around the world.

 

[Estro Felino]

Money indeed does matter to women and many in the United States will sacrifice their value for it..

A great example where dignity is exchanged for fame and fortune see no further than Donald Trump: Would Melania be with such a man if he had no money or fame? Would Melania be with Donald Trump the mechanic?

Young Italian model married Ivana Trump, 25 years older.
Where is the difference? People are free to marry other people who might turn out to be fortune-hunters.

 

[Skwim]

There are women who

There are lots of women men who like being objectified to an extent. Take it away from them and they're miserable. I think it's an issue with various cultures around the world.

There are women who get a psychological charge out of being objectified, plus those who find it profitable to be objectified, and thus either encourage it or put up with it.
So, is it always wrong to objectify women? Of course not, but people have to be careful not to objectify those who take offense at it.

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[Willamena]

Ignorance is bliss. Some women like being objectified until they find out what it is.

 

[Deidre]

I think that there are men who see women as worthless, and only a means for sexual gratification. That to me, is objectification, and honestly, no women want that. Now, I do like feeling sexy for my husband, that to me, isn't objectifying. If other men find me sexy, that also isn't objectifying to me. But, if my husband only saw me as a means for sexual gratification, and little more, then I'd consider that objectifying me. I think there's a distinction, imo.

 

[Skwim]

I think that there are men who see women as worthless, and only a means for sexual gratification. That to me, is objectification, and honestly, no women want that.

Ever hear of masochism and degradation?

Now, I do like feeling sexy for my husband, that to me, isn't objectifying.

And 2 to 1 you like feeling sexy for strange, good looking men.

If other men find me sexy, that also isn't objectifying to me.

Then what are they doing, admiring you for your wit and wisdom? Believe me, they're not. They're thinking "Hot Babe, I wonder if / how . . . ." And that's pretty much all they're thinking.

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[Estro Felino]

Then what are they doing, admiring you for your wit and wisdom? Believe me, they're not. They're thinking "Hot Babe, I wonder if / how . . . ." And that's all they're thinking.

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Lots of men go shirtless on the street, in Summer
. Do you think they are not objectified by women as well?

 

[Skwim]

Lots of men go shirtless on the street, in Summer
. Do you think they are not objectified by women as well?

If the men are good looking I would imagine they are.

.

 

[Deidre]

Ever hear of masochism and degradation?

Yes. But, that's about role playing.

And 2 to 1 you like feeling sexy for strange, good looking men.

Well, not strange...lol

Then what are they doing, admiring you for your wit and wisdom? Believe me, they're not. They're thinking "Hot Babe, I wonder if / how . . . ." And that's pretty much all they're thinking.

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It doesn't bother me. I meant if say that's all my husband saw in me. Or my boss saw in me, and then he expects sexual favors, etc. That's how I see it. I think it's a wrongly and overused word that often doesn't mean what people think it means.

 

[Ellen Brown]

Feminists such as the likes of Catherine Mackinnon and Dworkin often argue that patriarchy is the root of all misogyny and objectification, but I believe in some instances women are often times the cause of their own objectification. Some hardcore feminists would argue that in all instances women are absolved from blame of being objectified. I think sometimes we forget we live in a bizarro world where the deplorable is sometimes the beautiful and exquisite. For example, some psycho-biologist would argue that women who love men with power and money could be the result of some primordial rewiring in the brain due to the survival instinct. Men with money equals a man with resources, a man with resources equals livability of the genes and the continuation of the DNA.

I use the following example:

Spoiler: Viewer discretion advised

Floyd Mayweather iis a great boxer but a horrible representation of a gentleman, but a great example of misogyny. In several videos aside form this one, this woman sits idle while she is being describe by Floyd who it has come out that he recently has impregnated her. What is problematic is she has no issue because she is a woman who is well off. She is pregnant and what that means is she will for the next 18 years have money. It is sad that in the United States when women get pregnant the unborn child is seen as a "cash cow" in the zeitgeist of American capitalist society. Some women more often than not, will exchange their dignity for fame and fortune and will submerge their self-worth for self-profit.

Money indeed does matter to women and many in the United States will sacrifice their value for it..

A great example where dignity is exchanged for fame and fortune see no further than Donald Trump: Would Melania be with such a man if he had no money or fame? Would Melania be with Donald Trump the mechanic?

Feminists such as the likes of Catherine Mackinnon and Dworkin often argue that patriarchy is the root of all misogyny and objectification, but I believe in some instances women are often times the cause of their own objectification. Some hardcore feminists would argue that in all instances women are absolved from blame of being objectified. I think sometimes we forget we live in a bizarro world where the deplorable is sometimes the beautiful and exquisite. For example, some psycho-biologist would argue that women who love men with power and money could be the result of some primordial rewiring in the brain due to the survival instinct. Men with money equals a man with resources, a man with resources equals livability of the genes and the continuation of the DNA.

I use the following example:

Spoiler: Viewer discretion advised

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Floyd Mayweather iis a great boxer but a horrible representation of a gentleman, but a great example of misogyny. In several videos aside form this one, this woman sits idle while she is being describe by Floyd who it has come out that he recently has impregnated her. What is problematic is she has no issue because she is a woman who is well off. She is pregnant and what that means is she will for the next 18 years have money. It is sad that in the United States when women get pregnant the unborn child is seen as a "cash cow" in the zeitgeist of American capitalist society. Some women more often than not, will exchange their dignity for fame and fortune and will submerge their self-worth for self-profit.

Money indeed does matter to women and many in the United States will sacrifice their value for it..

A great example where dignity is exchanged for fame and fortune see no further than Donald Trump: Would Melania be with such a man if he had no money or fame? Would Melania be with Donald Trump the mechanic?

Spoiler: Viewer discretion advised

I've done some wild things and then repented, and felt contrite. We were all young once. If you talk to folk who run Women's Shelters ...

There is Genesis 3:16 and depending on how children are raised to adulthood. That scripture has a varying effect. Ideally, males will be raised to treat women with respect, and we know that many are not, or they somehow slip through the decency screen.

We know that women like men just as much as the reverse is true, and well raised women will be taught early on that she will bear most of the pain of sexual indiscretion.

As to women enjoying being objectified ...

 

[PureX]

The human mind is anything but one-dimensional. We are all capable of believing, feeling, and thinking multiple things at one time, and even when they contradict each other. In fact, we're not only capable of this, it is HOW WE HUMANS THINK (comparing and contrasting different information sets). So to blame human nature on one gender or another is just silly. As gender assignment is far more complicated then that, both individually and collectively.