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Something doesn’t add up

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
How would believing that our solar system was created in the blink of an eye be any more ‘crazy’ than believing in any sort of creation event? I think they rank equally on a ‘crazy’ scale. Having said that, the most ‘sane’ thing to believe would be believing that all of existence has always been around, no?

If someone says they believe in a creation event it’s no big deal but if they say our solar system was created during said event and that evolution is therefore a fallacy then there’s a big scandal.
 

PoetPhilosopher

Veteran Member
If someone says they believe in a creation event it’s no big deal but if they say our solar system was created during said event and that evolution is therefore a fallacy then there’s a big scandal.

Evolution hasn't been proven to be a fallacy. So you can say it, it just doesn't really have much merit in more formal debates until proven true.

But yes, there are some very science-knowledgable minds on this forum. And they sometimes lose patience when they see what they might see as science being disrespected. I kind of understand both sides of it, though, so I'm not complaining.
 

Jose Fly

Fisker of men
How would believing that our solar system was created in the blink of an eye be any more ‘crazy’ than believing in any sort of creation event?
Who is saying that our solar system came about instantaneously? The only ones I know of who believe that are the creationists.

I think they rank equally on a ‘crazy’ scale. Having said that, the most ‘sane’ thing to believe would be believing that all of existence has always been around, no?
No, because the data doesn't support that.

If someone says they believe in a creation event it’s no big deal but if they say our solar system was created during said event and that evolution is therefore a fallacy then there’s a big scandal.
If someone says "Our solar system was created instantly, therefore evolution is a fallacy", to be honest that's rather....um.....dumb. Evolution is about living things, not solar systems.
 

SigurdReginson

Grēne Mann
Premium Member
Eh... I don't feel that it matters all that much if you believe the earth was created this morning when you woke up, for all I care - at least not in the way you interface with existence.

When I accept beliefs at face value, though, it compromises my critical thinking skills. If I make a habit of doing that, it becomes easier to accept and incorporate more and more beliefs as true that may not be. Skepticism is important in truth finding.

So I guess I'd wonder what ideas presented supercedes what the physical evidence suggests so far and why those ideas are more likely true.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
How would believing that our solar system was created in the blink of an eye be any more ‘crazy’ than believing in any sort of creation event? I think they rank equally on a ‘crazy’ scale. Having said that, the most ‘sane’ thing to believe would be believing that all of existence has always been around, no?
Well it's more accurate to say that energy has always existed, and part of energy is the laws of physics which how the energy behaves.

If someone says they believe in a creation event it’s no big deal but if they say our solar system was created during said event and that evolution is therefore a fallacy then there’s a big scandal.
The more specific the claim the more facts pile up against it. Creationists need to be as vague as possible.
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
How would believing that our solar system was created in the blink of an eye be any more ‘crazy’ than believing in any sort of creation event? I think they rank equally on a ‘crazy’ scale. Having said that, the most ‘sane’ thing to believe would be believing that all of existence has always been around, no?

If someone says they believe in a creation event it’s no big deal but if they say our solar system was created during said event and that evolution is therefore a fallacy then there’s a big scandal.
Yes, "no". :D

It depends on whether you want to take into account the evidence that is around, or ignore it. There is evidence for the age of the solar system and evidence for the age of the universe. But it takes a little effort to understand why the evidence leads us to the conclusions that it does. Some people prefer not to bother.
 

PureX

Veteran Member
How would believing that our solar system was created in the blink of an eye be any more ‘crazy’ than believing in any sort of creation event? I think they rank equally on a ‘crazy’ scale. Having said that, the most ‘sane’ thing to believe would be believing that all of existence has always been around, no?

If someone says they believe in a creation event it’s no big deal but if they say our solar system was created during said event and that evolution is therefore a fallacy then there’s a big scandal.
What's crazy is "believing in" stuff when we obviously have no idea what the truth is.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
How would believing that our solar system was created in the blink of an eye be any more ‘crazy’ than believing in any sort of creation event? I think they rank equally on a ‘crazy’ scale. Having said that, the most ‘sane’ thing to believe would be believing that all of existence has always been around, no?

If someone says they believe in a creation event it’s no big deal but if they say our solar system was created during said event and that evolution is therefore a fallacy then there’s a big scandal.
We know things because its what is actually being observed out in the universe.


 

Nimos

Well-Known Member
How would believing that our solar system was created in the blink of an eye be any more ‘crazy’ than believing in any sort of creation event? I think they rank equally on a ‘crazy’ scale. Having said that, the most ‘sane’ thing to believe would be believing that all of existence has always been around, no?

If someone says they believe in a creation event it’s no big deal but if they say our solar system was created during said event and that evolution is therefore a fallacy then there’s a big scandal.
If billions of years are a blink of an eye, I guess anything could be considered a blink of an eye :D
 

Jeremiah Ames

Well-Known Member
How would believing that our solar system was created in the blink of an eye be any more ‘crazy’ than believing in any sort of creation event? I think they rank equally on a ‘crazy’ scale. Having said that, the most ‘sane’ thing to believe would be believing that all of existence has always been around, no?

If someone says they believe in a creation event it’s no big deal but if they say our solar system was created during said event and that evolution is therefore a fallacy then there’s a big scandal.

i think what doesn’t add up…..

….. might be your statements in the OP

maybe

just saying
 
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