Stopping travel for assumed abortion access?

[SomeRandom]

Some don't like Democrats no matter what and will say anything and everything against them for stopping people from building factories in residential areas, for caring for the poor, for acting to preserve lives, anything that protects the majority against the willful and "I don't give a **** what this does to you" contingent.

Ahh.
Over here the term used is “one eyed supporter.”
It’s slang meaning someone who will only see the faults of the opponent and the best in their team. And constantly point each out.
Granted it’s used more for drunk sports fans, but it’s been (sarcastically) used for political supporters as well

 

[crossfire]

None of this likely would have happened had authoritarian Democrats not started limiting and destroying people's freedoms using the nanny state.

Texas is a red state. You can't blame this on Democrats.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Texas is a red state. You can't blame this on Democrats.

No I can't, but Republicans are now using the same tactics that I despised so much of the Democrats.

I thought they were above all that, yet they lowered themselves to the same despicable level now, and as much as I enjoyed Democrats having a taste of their own medicine, it wasn't the right thing to do.

 

[Twilight Hue]

He thinks things like a democratic vote to do away with free, crap bags at the grocery store and voting for stricter environment regulations is a nanny state overreach.
Amd things like this as retaliation.

And it's a fact Democrats are presently the party of do as your told, and Republicans have been dishing out the same authoritarian crap back at them.

Mandaters will Mandate.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

And it's a fact Democrats are presently the party of do as your told, and Republicans have been dishing out the same authoritarian crap back at them.

Mandaters will Mandate.

No, the difference is We the People VOTED for thise things you endlessly call a nanny state over reach while Republicans FORCE.
No wonder so many on your side couldn't amd atilk can't see Jan 6th for the attempted insurrection it was. Your own posts consistently fail to acknowledge the difference between a domecratic vote decidsd by The People (even the grocery bag thing in numerous Rep jurisdictions) amd things forced by politicians.

 

[Friend of Mara]

And it's a fact Democrats are presently the party of do as your told, and Republicans have been dishing out the same authoritarian crap back at them.

Mandaters will Mandate.

So both parties are authoritarian? Been that way for a while. Republicans have been trying to govern women's bodies since the 70's so I don't think you can blame that one on the Democrats tho.

 

[Wandering Monk]

How can a state charge a person for 'crimes' committed in another state? Doesn't that fall under Federal purview?

Read this for example, the section Crimes Across State Lines: What Makes a Crime a Federal Offense? - Carson J. Heefner, DUI & Criminal Defense.

 

[Valjean]

No, the difference is We the People VOTED for thise things you endlessly call a nanny state over reach while Republicans FORCE.
No wonder so many on your side couldn't amd atilk can't see Jan 6th for the attempted insurrection it was. Your own posts consistently fail to acknowledge the difference between a domecratic vote decidsd by The People (even the grocery bag thing in numerous Rep jurisdictions) amd things forced by politicians.

Democrats are their own nannies. It's the Right-wing who see's government as an entity distinct from The People.

 

[Valjean]

So both parties are authoritarian? Been that way for a while. Republicans have been trying to govern women's bodies since the 70's so I don't think you can blame that one on the Democrats tho.

A pox on both their houses.
The Republicans have moved far, far to the right, and the Democrats have abandoned their traditional base, The People, for the Technical class.
The People are left flapping in the wind.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Yes, the Trump era has normalized all manner racist, misogynistic, and homophobic efforts, and, yes, it is thoroughly disgusting. Let's hope that the specter of such efforts incentivizes many to fight back in the voting booth.

The only place fighting back is really going to matter. Yet there is a very real danger that angst over Biden's age will weaken that fight enough to permanently damage the nation.

 

[Valjean]

The only place fighting back is really going to matter. Yet there is a very real danger that angst over Biden's age will weaken that fight enough to permanently damage the nation.

Au contraire. Real progress: emancipation, unions, womens' suffrage, civil rights, &c were only achieved by boots on the ground, not in the voting booth.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Au contraire. Real progress: emancipation, unions, womens' suffrage, civil rights, &c were only achieved by boots on the ground, not in the voting booth.

Of course you are correct, and as someone who has read A.C. Grayling's Towards the Light: The Story of the Struggles for LIberty and Rights that Made the Modern West, I should have been more careful.

 

[Revoltingest]

Authoritarian Democrats sounds like an oxymoron. Democrats, traditionally, at least, are advocates of democracy.
Doesn't a nanny state imply a government separate from The People? Isn't such a government a Right-wing phenomenon?

Dems have their authoritarian streak too,
eg, civil forfeiture abuse (a Biden favorite),
an anti-abortion wing, over-regulation.

 

[SomeRandom]

No I can't, but Republicans are now using the same tactics that I despised so much of the Democrats.

I thought they were above all that, yet they lowered themselves to the same despicable level now, and as much as I enjoyed Democrats having a taste of their own medicine, it wasn't the right thing to do.

When politics is nothing more than a mud slinging contest, it’s the people who are the ones who end up drowning in the aftermath.

But damn, I think you guys should establish some lines not to be crossed. Regardless of politics.

I’m not saying ours is much better, they’re all awful jerks here. I’m just saying, there has to be some limits. Surely!?

 

[Quintessence]

When politics is nothing more than a mud slinging contest, it’s the people who are the ones who end up drowning in the aftermath.

But damn, I think you guys should establish some lines not to be crossed. Regardless of politics.

I’m not saying ours is much better, they’re all awful jerks here. I’m just saying, there has to be some limits. Surely!?

The only lines that cannot be crossed are those that the species is physically incapable of crossing. All else is negotiable, either in polite form or through force. It is what it is, for all the (mis)fortune it brings.

In terms of the everyday goings of things, stuff is actually all right here, honestly. It doesn't matter what measures the misogynists try to impose on women and trans folks, there will always be plenty of who will aid and abet those seeking freedom from forced birth (including the pregnant folks themselves). All these anti-human laws do is go against the spirit of the public good by making the process more dangerous. It will not stand in the long term, because it is not sustainable or reasonable. It is just beyond unfortunate that we're having to deal with this at all, and since I work at a university, I unfortunately work with a population who is among the most adversely impacted by it.

 

[SomeRandom]

The only lines that cannot be crossed are those that the species is physically incapable of crossing. All else is negotiable, either in polite form or through force. It is what it is, for all the (mis)fortune it brings.

In terms of the everyday goings of things, stuff is actually all right here, honestly. It doesn't matter what measures the misogynists try to impose on women and trans folks, there will always be plenty of who will aid and abet those seeking freedom from forced birth (including the pregnant folks themselves). All these anti-human laws do is go against the spirit of the public good by making the process more dangerous. It will not stand in the long term, because it is not sustainable or reasonable. It is just beyond unfortunate that we're having to deal with this at all, and since I work at a university, I unfortunately work with a population who is among the most adversely impacted by it.

Perhaps I’m being too cynical, but I’m finding it harder and harder to believe that the people will fight back against such grievances. I mean Germany didn’t seem to think it could fall under fascism and it found Hitler. Ya know?

But I suppose I should have a bit of faith in the American people. I mean I’ve seen right leaning folks equally appalled by this, so maybe there is something to be said for things like this forcing support just because it goes too far

 

[Quintessence]

Perhaps I’m being too cynical, but I’m finding it harder and harder to believe that the people will fight back against such grievances. I mean Germany didn’t seem to think it could fall under fascism and it found Hitler. Ya know?

But I suppose I should have a bit of faith in the American people. I mean I’ve seen right leaning folks equally appalled by this, so maybe there is something to be said for things like this forcing support just because it goes too far

Yeah, because its a gross invasion of government into private lives, which is not something many conservative are keen on in spite of some of them also holding religious creeds that teach life begins at conception. Controlling pregnancy fundamentally implies controlling the humans who are pregnant. Women's rights have also progressed too much over the past century for women to just go "aw shucks, I guess we're men's property again... yippie!" Too much value of liberty here, on all sides of the political discussion.

 

[Sargonski]

The more i read about the American right taking away women's freedoms and right the more angry i get with their fascist outlook

Tis disgusting indeed .. same thing happening on the Left .. so no escape .. pardon my French but .. sodomized from both sides the Statue of Liberty .. "My body My Choice" .. except when we in the mood .. for something rude. Dershowitz got a new book called "getting Trump" or some such thing .. "Cancelled" - Bookstores in Washington refused to carry it .. saw him in an interview .. had us at a 6 out of Ten on his Banana Scale .. which is ridiculously high on the Banana Republic Scale ... said we will hit Ten if he can be removed on the basis of some statute the prosecution is trying .. if this succeeds.

Abortion has always been a red line for me .. too stupid to be elected .. nothing challenged that line .. untillround Term 2 of Obama -- Now .. good grief .. the Prog Blue woke machine has gone so far down facist collectivist totalitarian land lane -- there are now bigger red lines than the Abortion issue .. Not that Red is much better .. but is better than the Blue Monster on many fronts ..

 

[Sargonski]

The more i read about the American right taking away women's freedoms and right the more angry i get with their fascist outlook

Tis disgusting indeed .. same thing happening on the Left .. so no escape .. pardon my French but .. sodomized from both sides the Statue of Liberty .. "My body My Choice" .. except when we in the mood .. for something rude. Dershowitz got a new book called "getting Trump" or some such thing .. "Cancelled" - Bookstores in Washington refused to carry it .. saw him in an interview .. had us at a 6 out of Ten on his Banana Scale .. which is ridiculously high on the Banana Republic Scale ... said we will hit Ten if he can be removed on the basis of some statute the prosecution is trying .. if this succeeds.

Abortion has always been a red line for me .. too stupid to be elected .. nothing challenged that line .. untillround Term 2 of Obama -- Now .. good grief .. the Prog Blue woke machine has gone so far down facist collectivist totalitarian land lane -- there are now bigger red lines than the Abortion issue .. The Woke blue Monster has gotten that bad.