Strange dream

[Kalidas]

I'm not sure if this is supposed to be one of those things that you don't tell people but it was strange and worries me a little so I would like advice.

So the dream went like this I was in a hotel with my family we had just gotten lunch like an hour ago. We were packing to go back home. In my closet was a murti I have never seen nor do I own, it was of Genesha and Hanuman holding hands with their hands up in the air. Well when I removed them their shadow stayed imprinted on the wall. When my family said they wanted to get dinner I protested saying "WHY we just had lunch an hour ago?" They told me since we were leaving and there weren't many places to eat on the way there it would be better to get food now. When we went outside I was putting things away in the van and had the murti(s?) on the trunk but they had lowed their arms and their heads like they were sad or had lost all power and gave off no shadow. I woke up after that. Yeah weird and I have NO IDEA what it means, but for some reason it worries me:help:

 

[Kalicharan Tuvij]

namaste

This is just what I "feel":

Shadows make entities real. The deities are indicating that they dont live anymore in the mainland.

But then the question is: why tell us?

 

[Kalidas]

namaste

This is just what I "feel":

Shadows make entities real. The deities are indicating that they dont live anymore in the mainland.

But then the question is: why tell us?

Because there are people here who have way more knowledge then I do and I would like to understand what this could mean. I don't even have the slightest idea.

 

[Kalicharan Tuvij]

Because there are people here who have way more knowledge then I do and I would like to understand what this could mean. I don't even have the slightest idea.

No, you misunderstood me. I meant "why the deities need to give us such dreams, and to what purpose?"

 

[Kalidas]

No, you misunderstood me. I meant "why the deities need to give us such dreams, and to what purpose?"

Oh sorry. I have no idea

 

[Sb1995]

Funny how the two God's I told you to start off with after Kali were present in your dream. I'm telling you now lemaster13, it's your calling from the Gods.. I'd go ahead with it now.

 

[Kalidas]

Funny how the two God's I told you to start off with after Kali were present in your dream. I'm telling you now lemaster13, it's your calling from the Gods.. I'd go ahead with it now.

Lol I knew you were going to say that. Still doesn't help explain the dream

Thats okay I love you anyways

 

[Kalicharan Tuvij]

sb1995-ji has a point. From a Vedic pov, Kali "sits" at the top of DyavaPrithvi and oversees everything from there. Ganesha and Hanuman on the other hand, as a thread by Shivoham has unexpectedly brought up, contain (and equal) the whole DyavaPrithvi within themselves.

Ganesha and Hanuman together- well that's rare. Fortunately they were only in the murthy form in your dream! This dream therefore is a blessing from the three: KaliMa, ShriGanesha and HanumanJi.

But as I said, shadows make things real. So this may denote the weakening of Dharma in India. And personally for you, may be, it may mean that you may have to at some point of time make a trip to India (if not already made, I mean).

So much for guess-work

KT

 

[Poeticus]

Not to throw this thread off key, but, Kalicharan-ji, I don't recall Ma Kāli being mentioned in the Shri Rig Veda.

 

[Kalicharan Tuvij]

Not to throw this thread off key, but, Kalicharan-ji, I don't recall Ma Kāli being mentioned in the Shri Rig Veda.

Caught me there!

Hmmm.. What about kAli being actually Ila, in a way (scratching head), Valmiki started calling Rama as: "marA"?

 

[Poeticus]

Caught me there!

Hmmm.. What about kAli being actually Ila, in a way (scratching head), Valmiki started calling Rama as: "marA"?

Maybe. Could be. But, Devi Kali of the Puranas would be different from ILa.

It would be like saying Indra of the Puranas is the same as Lord Shri Indra of Mandala 2, Hymn 12. When, they both are completely different. We must not give the polemics an upper-hand! The Soma-Agni (Somāgni) Cult refuses! Muahahahahahahaha!

 

[Kalicharan Tuvij]

Ila is said to be accepting "man-like" sacrifice. So this could only be Kali. The foot of Ila (Charan of Kali) is also clearly mentioned, and is said to drop ghee and nourish her children, especially Agni.

Spiritually she is same same. So, no shame shame in Kali!
I AM KALI'S PAGAN BHAKTA!!

 

[Poeticus]

Ila is said to be accepting "man-like" sacrifice. So this could only be Kali. The foot of Ila (Charan of Kali) is also clearly mentioned, and is said to drop ghee and nourish her children, especially Agni.

Spiritually she is same same. No no shame shame in Kali!

I have no problem with Shri Devi Kali. I just doubt her being applied to ILa. She is respected in the Somāgni, but never accepted as ILa. Muahahaha!

 

[Kalicharan Tuvij]

I have no problem with Shri Devi Kali. I just doubt her being applied to ILa. She is respected in the Somāgni, but never accepted as ILa. Muahahaha!

No, as I say, "she creates, and is the mother, of DyavaPrithvi" is a precise statement. Lemaster is not aware of Vedic terminology, otherwise he would be able to confirm it. Otherwise why would be we here talking about Le having both Ganesha and Hanuman together in his dream.

Here, obviously, I am assuming that Ganesha and Hanuman in their barest form can be said to be same as Lord Surya and Lord AsviniKumar. Indeed they are also not mentioned in Veda.

But the point is, the Hinduism as it is practiced (not preached or written about) has retained everything Vedic. That's why someone like ShivaFan, as you said of him in a post, "looks" so aligned to Vedic culture. How is that possible?

 

[Poeticus]

No, as I say, "she creates, and is the mother, of DyavaPrithvi" is a precise statement. Lemaster is not aware of Vedic terminology, otherwise he would be able to confirm it. Otherwise why would be we here talking about Le having both Ganesha and Hanuman together in his dream.

Here, obviously, I am assuming that Ganesha and Hanuman in their barest form can be said to be same as Lord Surya and Lord AsviniKumar. Indeed they are also not mentioned in Veda.

But the point is, the Hinduism as it is practiced (not preached or written about) has retained everything Vedic. That's why someone like ShivaFan, as you said of him in a post, "looks" so aligned to Vedic culture. How is that possible?

I guess. I don't agree with it overall, but it's your view and I acknowledge that. I don't really wanna argue this matter on LeMaster's thread. I'll conclude by saying that the OP's dream is interesting; maybe he needs to expand on his worship and incorporate Lord Shri Hanuman and Lord Shri Ganesha.

 

[Kalicharan Tuvij]

Another small point about Kali. We know in her fiercest forms she is as much masculine as feminine. Much like the other Faith-God Shiva (ardhaNariShevara).

We also know from later texts that Ila, or Ida, as a name could be feminine as well as masculine, or even something "alternating" between the two.

Though Kali (like Ila) has many forms. Even the formless. And this is what YajurVeda 1.7.2.2 talks about when asking of Ila: "Does she divide, or does she not divide?"

She is essentially infinite yet has mother like empathy for finititude, us, who are her children.

Dyo (Heaven) is a male God, and Apah (Waters) is Goddess. That's why Ila, or Kali, the Mother who lends us the helping hand on our evolution (strictly speaking, from Dyo towards Apah), can appear in a form which is a mix of both.

 

[Kalicharan Tuvij]

Also, She is very much like Brahman, both being kind of mirror-image of each other, that's why both "brahman" and "ila" as abstract nouns mean kinda "prayer" in the RgVeda.

Prayer yes that it is, of two kinds.

Why, I believe the word to be present in the word "TamiL". There were some Rsis of TamiL pradesha for sure when Veda was being composed!

I can give some interesting verses in this regard.

 

[Viraja]

I'm not sure if this is supposed to be one of those things that you don't tell people but it was strange and worries me a little so I would like advice.

So the dream went like this I was in a hotel with my family we had just gotten lunch like an hour ago. We were packing to go back home. In my closet was a murti I have never seen nor do I own, it was of Genesha and Hanuman holding hands with their hands up in the air. Well when I removed them their shadow stayed imprinted on the wall. When my family said they wanted to get dinner I protested saying "WHY we just had lunch an hour ago?" They told me since we were leaving and there weren't many places to eat on the way there it would be better to get food now. When we went outside I was putting things away in the van and had the murti(s?) on the trunk but they had lowed their arms and their heads like they were sad or had lost all power and gave off no shadow. I woke up after that. Yeah weird and I have NO IDEA what it means, but for some reason it worries me:help:

To me, the dream sounds like Sri Ganesha and Hanuman ji are saying, "We'll lift you up", "but only if you allow us (as in praying to us)".

 

[Sb1995]

Lol I knew you were going to say that. Still doesn't help explain the dream

Thats okay I love you anyways

It does explain it! It's your calling. Worship them now my friend the God's want your love!.

 

[Kalidas]

It does explain it! It's your calling. Worship them now my friend the God's want your love!.

You may just be right.