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Strange Scriptures

Trey of Diamonds

Well-Known Member
Deuteronomy 25:11 and 12

If two men fight together, and the wife of one draws near to rescue her husband from the hand of the one attacking him, and puts out her hand and seizes him by the genitals, then you shall cut off her hand; your eye shall not pity her.

Ok, this one seems pretty extreme to me as well as just bizzare. Did this happen enough to require a law? Did Hebrew women go around grabbing their husbands enemies by the genitals? If so why was it considered such a crime? I thought all was fair in love and war. :sarcastic

Feel free to offer up any other strange and bizarre scriptures for discussion and debate. :D
 

Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
Deuteronomy 25:11 and 12

Ok, this one seems pretty extreme to me as well as just bizzare. Did this happen enough to require a law? Did Hebrew women go around grabbing their husbands enemies by the genitals? If so why was it considered such a crime? I thought all was fair in love and war. :sarcastic

Feel free to offer up any other strange and bizarre scriptures for discussion and debate. :D

No, no, you're not supposed to take this one literally - it's a metaphor. Wait, or is it a parable? An allegory? Well, I'm sure it's one of those, and has some profound meaning.
 

4consideration

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Premium Member
Deuteronomy 25:11 and 12



Ok, this one seems pretty extreme to me as well as just bizzare. Did this happen enough to require a law? Did Hebrew women go around grabbing their husbands enemies by the genitals? If so why was it considered such a crime? I thought all was fair in love and war. :sarcastic

Feel free to offer up any other strange and bizarre scriptures for discussion and debate. :D

I have no idea on this one! :shrug:

Maybe she should just let him fight his own battles. Sheesh!
 

waitasec

Veteran Member
Deuteronomy 25:11 and 12



Ok, this one seems pretty extreme to me as well as just bizzare. Did this happen enough to require a law? Did Hebrew women go around grabbing their husbands enemies by the genitals? If so why was it considered such a crime? I thought all was fair in love and war. :sarcastic

Feel free to offer up any other strange and bizarre scriptures for discussion and debate. :D

tells you how much they valued their family jewels
:D
 

Trey of Diamonds

Well-Known Member
2 Kings 2:23 - 24

Then he went up from there to Bethel; and as he was going up the road, some youths came from the city and mocked him, and said to him, "Go up, you baldhead! Go up, you baldhead!" So he turned around and looked at them, and pronounced a curse on them in the name of the LORD. And two female bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the youths.

God protects bald headed men. :D
 

outhouse

Atheistically
Deuteronomy 25:11 and 12

Ok, this one seems pretty extreme to me as well as just bizzare. Did this happen enough to require a law?

thought all was fair in love and war. :sarcastic

Feel free to offer up any other strange and bizarre scriptures for discussion and debate. :D


I think it was a preemptive in nature, but probably happened.




If so why was it considered such a crime?


I believe this one has to do with women keeping their hands off strange mens junk in battle.

Did Hebrew women go around grabbing their husbands enemies by the genitals?I

Its possible the law originated after a fight

not sure. It was a primitive time and laws like this could have been made to stop it from happeneing alltogether.
 

Pegg

Jehovah our God is One
Deuteronomy 25:11 and 12



Ok, this one seems pretty extreme to me as well as just bizzare. Did this happen enough to require a law? Did Hebrew women go around grabbing their husbands enemies by the genitals? If so why was it considered such a crime? I thought all was fair in love and war. :sarcastic

Feel free to offer up any other strange and bizarre scriptures for discussion and debate. :D

the mosaic laws highlighted Gods view of certain matters. A mans genitals hold the reproductive organs and reproduction was a sacred duty because reproduction was Gods purpose.

He knows us before we are born because he can foresee each one of us....to destroy a man (or womans) means of reproduction is to destroy those future lives that God already knows. It really is about respect for life...even the life of the unborn.
 

Levite

Higher and Higher
Deuteronomy 25:11 and 12

Ok, this one seems pretty extreme to me as well as just bizzare. Did this happen enough to require a law? Did Hebrew women go around grabbing their husbands enemies by the genitals? If so why was it considered such a crime? I thought all was fair in love and war.

Feel free to offer up any other strange and bizarre scriptures for discussion and debate.

Well, the Rabbis of the Talmud admit that they are not certain such a thing ever happened in actuality. But they clarify that the meaning of this law is if she grabbed and crushed the man's testicles with the intent to grievously damage him so as to render him permanently ritually impure, and unable to appear in the Mishkan (Tabernacle) or Temple (in both, one had to be very ritually pure to enter the premises, and crushed genitals rendered a person always ritually impure), then she is punished harshly because she wished to hurt him by depriving him of his chance to experience the holiest experience a Jew could have.

But of course, as with any crime bearing the death penalty, for her to have been executed would've required the testimony of two eyewitnesses (aside from the fighting men) who would've had to verbally warn her not to commit the act in question, and they would've had to hear her refuse the warning and state her intentions before committing the act. Then, a court of between 23 and 71 rabbis would've had to find her guilty by precisely a margin of one less than their total number: two or more voting not guilty rendered an acquittal, and a court unanimously voting to condemn was automatically nullified, under the presumption that if not a single person was willing to speak up and save the life of the accused, the court must be corrupt.

So it probably didn't happen much.
 

Rakhel

Well-Known Member
Well, the Rabbis of the Talmud admit that they are not certain such a thing ever happened in actuality. But they clarify that the meaning of this law is if she grabbed and crushed the man's testicles with the intent to grievously damage him so as to render him permanently ritually impure, and unable to appear in the Mishkan (Tabernacle) or Temple (in both, one had to be very ritually pure to enter the premises, and crushed genitals rendered a person always ritually impure), then she is punished harshly because she wished to hurt him by depriving him of his chance to experience the holiest experience a Jew could have.

But of course, as with any crime bearing the death penalty, for her to have been executed would've required the testimony of two eyewitnesses (aside from the fighting men) who would've had to verbally warn her not to commit the act in question, and they would've had to hear her refuse the warning and state her intentions before committing the act. Then, a court of between 23 and 71 rabbis would've had to find her guilty by precisely a margin of one less than their total number: two or more voting not guilty rendered an acquittal, and a court unanimously voting to condemn was automatically nullified, under the presumption that if not a single person was willing to speak up and save the life of the accused, the court must be corrupt.

So it probably didn't happen much.
Not only that, but, considering the time this law was written, how many men are going to admit that a woman stopped a man from fighting her husband by grabbing his genitals?
 

fallingblood

Agnostic Theist
2 Kings 2:23 - 24



God protects bald headed men. :D

I just heard a professor mention this verse. It is possible that at that time, there were groups of prophets who went around with shaved heads. Elijah being such, thus was bald, and the kids understood why he was bald. And that was why they insulted him in the first place.
 

Trey of Diamonds

Well-Known Member
But they clarify that the meaning of this law is if she grabbed and crushed the man's testicles with the intent to grievously damage him so as to render him permanently ritually impure, and unable to appear in the Mishkan (Tabernacle) or Temple (in both, one had to be very ritually pure to enter the premises, and crushed genitals rendered a person always ritually impure), then she is punished harshly because she wished to hurt him by depriving him of his chance to experience the holiest experience a Jew could have.

Very interesting, thanks for the clarification. So many people forget to take culture and period into consideration.
 

Trey of Diamonds

Well-Known Member
Scripture or Porn? :sarcastic

Ezekiel 23:19-21

Yet she multiplied her harlotry In calling to remembrance the days of her youth, When she had played the harlot in the land of Egypt. For she lusted for her paramours, Whose flesh is like the flesh of donkeys, And whose issue is like the issue of horses.
Thus you called to remembrance the lewdness of your youth, When the Egyptians pressed your bosom Because of your youthful breasts.
 

Levite

Higher and Higher
Hehe what?

True, actually. The prophets frequently use the analogy of harlotry or adultery to allegorize the infidelity of Israel to God by idolatry. This is because poetically, the covenant is often symbolized as a marriage between God and Israel.
 

Gjallarhorn

N'yog-Sothep
True, actually. The prophets frequently use the analogy of harlotry or adultery to allegorize the infidelity of Israel to God by idolatry. This is because poetically, the covenant is often symbolized as a marriage between God and Israel.
I should have known. Only a servant of God would turn porn into a political statement...
 

Sleeppy

Fatalist. Christian. Pacifist.
"For she lusted for her paramours, Whose flesh is like the flesh of donkeys, And whose issue is like the issue of horses."

Don't know what to say about that.
 
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