Students Are Pushing Back Against Gender Ideology In Their Schools

[SkepticThinker]

The big issue is I have the audacity to believe a biological male is still a man even if he thinks he is a woman.

So back to the question I asked before, how do you know that the person you are addressing is a biological male or biological female?

 

[We Never Know]

That's great for you, but you really didn't address my point. Your service, and the service of your dad, uncle and brother are what deserve the respect, in my opinion.

It is literally a piece of cloth that has no feelings, no wants, no desires. Versus an interaction with a literal human being with feelings, desires and needs.

And a word is just a word.

But yet you will go on how that word means something to others.... While ignoring that what you dismiss as a just a piece of cloth means something to me.

 

[SkepticThinker]

And a word is just a word.

But yet you will go on how that word means something to others.... While ignoring that what you dismiss as a just a piece of cloth means something to me.

The word used affects the feelings of actual human beings that the word is being used to refer to.
Splice it up any way you want, one involves an inanimate object that has no feelings whatsoever, and the other involves a human being with actual feelings.

Say whatever you want to a flag. It isn't going to experience anything at all.

 

[We Never Know]

The word used affects the feelings of actual human beings that the word is being used to refer to.
Splice it up any way you want, one involves an inanimate object that has no feelings whatsoever, and the other involves a human being with actual feelings.

Say whatever you want to a flag. It isn't going to experience anything at all.

A word is an inanimate object. A word has no feelings.
Do you agree?

You are talking about an inanimate word that has no feelings but it means something to others.
Just like I'm talking about an inanimate piece of cloth that has no feelings but it means something to others.

 

[SkepticThinker]

A word is an inanimate object. A word has no feelings.
Do you agree?

You are talking about an inanimate word that has no feelings but it means something to others.
Just like I'm talking about an inanimate piece of cloth that has no feelings but it means something to others.

Human beings are the ones being referred to by pronouns. Human beings are living and breathing with feelings and everything.
Flags are not.

I've never seen someone try so hard to miss the point in all my life. Why do you insist on doing this all the time?

 

[Twilight Hue]

The big issue is I have the audacity to believe a biological male is still a man even if he thinks he is a woman.

Your not wrong imv.

For me I just like to keep it honest and truthful.

Men, women, trans men, trans women. .

 

[We Never Know]

Human beings are the ones being referred to by pronouns. Human beings are living and breathing with feelings and everything.
Flags are not.

I've never seen someone try so hard to miss the point in all my life. Why do you insist on doing this all the time?

Here is the point....

"A word is inanimate and has no feelings but it means something to others.
A piece of cloth is inanimate and has no feelings but it means something to others.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Here is the point....

"A word is inanimate and has no feelings but it means something to others.
A piece of cloth is inanimate and has no feelings but it means something to others.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Here is the point....

"A word is inanimate and has no feelings but it means something to others.
A piece of cloth is inanimate and has no feelings but it means something to others.

Does a flag, a piece of cloth, feel pain when you burn it? Does it get it's feelings hurt if you call it by something else that it isn't? Nope. It has no feelings.

Pronouns, on the other hand, are used to address human beings. Can you hurt a human being's feelings and disrespect them by using improper pronouns to address them? Absolutely you can.

Get it?

 

[Kfox]

So, you make an impression based on outward appearance. In what way does biology determine that?

If they look like a biological male, I address them as a biological male.

No, you're not. You're referring to them with a gendered term.

Wrong. I decide how I refer to people; not you

They weren't. For as long as gender has been understood as a social construct, it has been distinct from biological categorization.

Perhaps the professional community called it a social construct, but basic people spoke of gender and biology as if they were the same.
If you disagree, point to a year when main society called biological males women based strictly on what’s going on inside of their heads.

No, they're gendered terms. For as long as you have been alive, this has been understood. You know that when you refer to human men and women you are referring to something that is very different than simple biology,

Man/woman are gender terms, male/female are biological terms. Both have pronouns he/she; that’s why my female dog is referred to as a she; this is the case with all mammals; humans included.

 

[Kfox]

That juat means that like everybody else you go by visual queues. This is because biology is obscured from view.

True.

 

[Kfox]

That attitude of yours is how butch lesbians and women with PCOS get misgendered.

Yeah; I'm sure they're used to it.

 

[Kfox]

I do as well, but if I'm informed that "he" is trans, then I adjust in that direction.

Good for you!

 

[Kfox]

So back to the question I asked before, how do you know that the person you are addressing is a biological male or biological female?

Again; if I address someone as a male because they look like a male, but they tell me they are female, I will assume they are and address them as female. It usually ends there.

 

[Callisto]

Besides slavery, high school students also need to understand that some of our past heroes have been transgender.

Casimir Pulaski, Polish Hero of the Revolutionary War, Was Most Likely Intersex, Researchers Say​

Transgender and Intersex are not the same thing. Pulaski was likely intersex, but that doesn't mean he was also transgender.

• What's the difference between being transgender or transsexual and having an intersex condition? - The Intersex Society of North America
• Intersex is not a gender identity, and the implications for legislation - Intersex Human Rights Australia
• What does intersex mean? - Planned Parenthood

 

[F1fan]

Again; if I address someone as a male because they look like a male, but they tell me they are female, I will assume they are and address them as female. It usually ends there.

Are you often confused about this? Wouldn't it be wise to use neutral terms?

 

[Kfox]

Are you often confused about this? Wouldn't it be wise to use neutral terms?

No; I find it easier to just address people according to who they appear to be. If I get it wrong and they correct me, I have no problem with that.

 

[F1fan]

No; I find it easier to just address people according to who they appear to be. If I get it wrong and they correct me, I have no problem with that.

It could come accross as insensitive and rude. I've made mistakes myself and felt embarrassed for being careless, and try to be more nuetral if I'm unsure.

 

[We Never Know]

Does a flag, a piece of cloth, feel pain when you burn it? Does it get it's feelings hurt if you call it by something else that it isn't? Nope. It has no feelings.

Pronouns, on the other hand, are used to address human beings. Can you hurt a human being's feelings and disrespect them by using improper pronouns to address them? Absolutely you can.

Get it?

Does a pronoun, a word, feel pain when its not used? Does it get it's feelings hurt if you call it by something else that it isn't? Nope. It has no feelings.

 

[We Never Know]

Are you often confused about this? Wouldn't it be wise to use neutral terms?

Them, they, that person.... Nothing wrong with that.