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Students Are Pushing Back Against Gender Ideology In Their Schools

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
What more is there?
If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don’t deal in lies,
Or being hated, don’t give way to hating,
And yet don’t look too good, nor talk too wise:
If you can dream—and not make dreams your master;
If you can think—and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build ’em up with worn-out tools:
If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: ‘Hold on!’
If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings—nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds’ worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it,
And—which is more—you’ll be a Man, my son!


(Not a word about if you have a penis. Not a word about if you have a Y chromosome.)
 

Guitar's Cry

Disciple of Pan
This point was brought up before, and I imagine that it will be dodged again.
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9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Here is the point....

"A word is inanimate and has no feelings but it means something to others.
A piece of cloth is inanimate and has no feelings but it means something to others.

The difference between a national flag and a person's pronouns:

Your pronouns belong to and represent only you. A national flag belongs to and represents every person of that nanationality.

When it comes to your flag, you're entitled to say what it represents to you, but you're just one voice out of many. You have no more claim to the flag than any other person, even if they see it as a symbol of something negative.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
How do I know they keep doing it, unless somebody else tells me? Ya see; the only pronouns someone will use in reference to me when talking to me is "you" or "your"; this idea that someone is going to refer to me as a she when talking to me is not how the English language works. So if someone mis-genders me, they only way they can do it is if they are talking to someone else about me, thus I am not a part of the conversation. Now if Billy keeps running to me telling me that Jane keeps referring to me as a she when he talks to her, I will tell Billy that I don't wanna hear about it.

You went on at length about how you like to misgender trans people when you meet them. Was all that just hot air, or do you like to violate what you see as "how the English language works" to go out of your way to misgender them?
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Outside of a lab, it is impractical and rude. I would suggest those who insist on attaching pronouns to genetics are either being pendantic or have their own political agenda.
It is rude is for someone to have a personal preference to which they insist everyone else must conform.
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
It's not that simple, especially since hormonal balance and environmental factors can affect the phenotypes.
It is precisely that simple. A male person is defined as having a Y chromosome. It is a fact. Sorry not sorry if that is inconvenient for some.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
It is precisely that simple. A male person is defined as having a Y chromosome. It is a fact. Sorry not sorry if that is inconvenient for some.
Obviously, you've never studied genetics to any significant degree. There are numerous articles that Scientific American has put out over the last two or so years, for example, that provide the results of reearch showing that it's much more complex than how you are portraying it.
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
It is rude is for someone to have a personal preference to which they insist everyone else must conform.
That is practically everyone on the planet, and everyone who has ever lived. I have never met anyone who didn't have a personal preference regarding what name and pronouns people use when referring to them.


Come on baby, you know it's true,
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Obviously, you've never studied genetics to any significant degree. There are numerous articles that Scientific American has put out over the last two or so years, for example, that provide the results of reearch showing that it's much more complex than how you are portraying it.
Scientific American has become a political magazine. It is garbage.
 
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