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Students Are Pushing Back Against Gender Ideology In Their Schools

Lekatt

Member
Premium Member
No; but it seems the vast majority of those who wanna change their sex were born with natural hormone function and normal genitalia. It doesn’t happen over night, but it almost always seems to turn out that way
No it doesn't. Something is wrong, normal people don't change their sex. Your reasoning is far fetched logic and false.
 

Kfox

Well-Known Member
It's My Birthday!
No it doesn't. Something is wrong, normal people don't change their sex. Your reasoning is far fetched logic and false.
Are you seriously under the impression most people who are transgender are also intersex?
 

Copernicus

Industrial Strength Linguist
No; but it seems the vast majority of those who wanna change their sex were born with natural hormone function and normal genitalia. It doesn’t happen over night, but it almost always seems to turn out that way

We are talking about less than .1% of the US population, and you are no expert on what drives them to their condition. Nevertheless, you set yourself up as capable of judging that tiny minority.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
For the most part; American society does. Things that are deemed harmful are outlawed.
Then why do other Western countries ban toxic food addictives that the US allows, while fresh, unpasteurized cheese is illegal in America despite it being safely consumed in other nations?
 

Lekatt

Member
Premium Member
Are you seriously under the impression most people who are transgender are also intersex?
Normal people do not change their sex, there has to be a reason, that reason is something is wrong. They need help not judging. Yes, it could be they are intersex, hormone imbalance, or some yet unknown factor. They are human beings with the same feelings and hopes we all have and should be treated with respect.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
Then why do other Western countries ban toxic food addictives that the US allows, while fresh, unpasteurized cheese is illegal in America despite it being safely consumed in other nations?
Wait. The US doesn’t allow unpasteurised cheese?
Sorry, weird thing to focus on. But that blew my mind lol
I mean our government just approved the sale and trade of raw milk products, so we had a ban previously (some states were more strict than others though and it mostly only really affected local products. International cheeses could still be unpasteurised, provided they pass safety regulations.) but now all of that’s gone. As of last year I think. Or a couple. Whatever. We can make and sell raw cheese locally more openly is the point
 
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Kfox

Well-Known Member
It's My Birthday!
We are talking about less than .1% of the US population, and you are no expert on what drives them to their condition. Nevertheless, you set yourself up as capable of judging that tiny minority.
Do you disagree with what I said?
 

Copernicus

Industrial Strength Linguist
Do you disagree with what I said?

Until you back up your claim that "the vast majority of those who wanna change their sex were born with natural hormone function and normal genitalia", there is no basis for agreement or disagreement. You don't study that population and know nothing about their hormone function or genitalia. Since nobody would know whether neonatal child was going to suffer gender dysphoria during later development, there would be no basis for determining their hormone level or anything else that would indicate abnormality. Nevertheless, you make this sweeping claim that cannot be verified or falsified.
 

Kfox

Well-Known Member
It's My Birthday!
Until you back up your claim that "the vast majority of those who wanna change their sex were born with natural hormone function and normal genitalia", there is no basis for agreement or disagreement. You don't study that population and know nothing about their hormone function or genitalia. Since nobody would know whether neonatal child was going to suffer gender dysphoria during later development, there would be no basis for determining their hormone level or anything else that would indicate abnormality. Nevertheless, you make this sweeping claim that cannot be verified or falsified.
According to “Intersex Society of North America”, approx 1% are currently born with one version or another of intersex
How common is intersex? | Intersex Society of North America

According to PEW Research approx 5% of young adults are Trans
About 5% of young adults in the U.S. say their gender is different from their sex assigned at birth

If we do the math, we can conclude even if every single intersex person eventually came out trans (which there would be plenty of articles on this if it were the case) still the majority of trans would not be intersex.
 
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Secret Chief

Veteran Member
Wait. The US doesn’t allow unpasteurised cheese?
Sorry, weird thing to focus on. But that blew my mind lol
I mean our government just approved the sale and trade of raw milk products, so we had a ban previously (some states were more strict than others though and it mostly only really affected local products. International cheeses could still be unpasteurised, provided they pass safety regulations.) but now all of that’s gone. As of last year I think. Or a couple. Whatever. We can make and sell raw cheese locally more openly is the point
More weirdness...this excellent low alcohol beer isn't about to appear on any shelves in the US. Tonka beans. Look it up!

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Copernicus

Industrial Strength Linguist
According to “Intersex Society of North America”, approx 1% are currently born with one version or another of intersex
How common is intersex? | Intersex Society of North America

According to PEW Research approx 5% of young adults are intersex
About 5% of young adults in the U.S. say their gender is different from their sex assigned at birth

If we do the math, we can conclude even if every single intersex person eventually came out trans (which there would be plenty of articles on this if it were the case) still the majority of trans would not be intersex.

Gender dysphoria may or may not involve intersex individuals. I was only pointing out that you aren't in a position to know anything about what causes gender dysphoria or whether there were detectable conditions at birth that would suggest a newborn baby was predisposed to develop it later on. Gender dysphoria is merely about an individual that disagrees with the gender recorded on his or her birth certificate. Why do you consider yourself such an expert on the subject? Leave it to families and medical professionals to sort out, not politicians.
 

Kfox

Well-Known Member
It's My Birthday!
Gender dysphoria may or may not involve intersex individuals. I was only pointing out that you aren't in a position to know anything about what causes gender dysphoria or whether there were detectable conditions at birth that would suggest a newborn baby was predisposed to develop it later on. Gender dysphoria is merely about an individual that disagrees with the gender recorded on his or her birth certificate. Why do you consider yourself such an expert on the subject? Leave it to families and medical professionals to sort out, not politicians.
The only claim I was making was that most people gender dysphoric are not intersex, and I provided outside sources to back up my claim. Do you agree with me now?
 
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